New Wahoo Kickr Move trainer (2023)

Just got my pod lite, setting it up with a kickr. It says that axis feet must be removed, but… that’s all I have, can’t replace them with rigid feet because I don’t think I ever had those. Did you remove the rubber stuff from all three feet and from the “main body” (below the freewheel)? If so, did you order those separately?

Edit: tried ignoring that, but axis feet are too high, and the legs to not go deep enough into the clamps to be properly secured. Bummer.

I did not remove anything. I had to screw the feet all the way in to get the clamps to loosely close in the beginning. Once you have the brackets loosely closed then you can unscrew the feet a bit as needed.
The brackets that come with the pod lite are the hard part. I had to back the silver screws way out. It took some trial and error to get them out far enough but not too far. You will have to unscrew the black clamping wing nut along ways out to get the top of the clamp to slip under the washers. I guess if your screws are not long enough you can got buy 3 longer ones.
Longer screws with a star washer and wing nut on the bottom might have been a better way rather than those pound in nuts. Oh well.

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Thanks, nice to hear I’m not the only one struggling with the initial setup! Yeah, I’ve been playing around for the last half hour and came up with this idea too (loosening up the silver bolts). But I’ll keep that as a backup. My current plan is to go get something two times thicker that those plywood spacers to put under the clamps. Off to Home Depot, will report back soon :slight_smile:

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This is all I could see when @gpl first got on the bike and was rocking back and forth to test the stability:
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I don’t understand the use case for the climb. How many of you just free ride around Zwift letting the resistance change as you go?

When I get on the trainer, I have a plan for a workout that doesn’t involve random resistance level changes.

Maybe more and more people just want to ride around?

Keep in mind that many of us here are not representative of a typical Zwift user. For what I expect is the majority of Z users, they are doing stuff like group rides, robo-pacer rides and races so they will be experiencing all the virtual road grade changes where a Climb will be acting.

It’s been ages since I used my Climb, so I don’t remember it’s function within Zwift native workouts. It may well be dead and locked, but it might still follow grade changes.

For those of us TR and other users using Zwift in passive mode (controlled by an app other than Zwift), the Climb is not acting to follow roads.

Main point being that a large number of Zwift users are likely just using that directly rather than as a secondary app. For all of those cases, Climb use is active all the time.

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I have the v1 Kickr bike so it comes with the climbing feature. It’s a nice add-on but it’s not why I bought the Kickr bike. If I had a regular direct drive trainer I would not buy the climb as the benefit to me doesn’t justify the cost. The climbing feature does actually engage in TR workouts if you have it enabled. Most times I don’t thought.

As far as fee riding in Zwift. I don’t currently use it but when I did my coach who occasionally prescribe me some semi structure workouts. For example, hill repeats or another one would be ride around Zwift, if somebody passes you latch onto their wheel for X amount of time then drop off and chill for X amount of time. These workouts were as much about breaking up the monotony of indoor training as anything else. So I would have the climb feature enabled for these.

As much as I enjoy structured workouts and a plan sometimes I just want to ride

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When I start a workout, outside or inside, I prefer to have random changes in resistance. Because I’ve learned that doing so appears to both increase performance and ability to pace by feel. Some of that is explained in this blog post I received by email today: How and why to do your intervals outside – FasCat Coaching

My goal with indoor training on my Kickr is to replicate outside as much as possible, which means Sim mode and Level/Standard/Slope mode as backup. I’ve successfully trained for mountain climbs on flat terrain, and am not interested in the Climb (expense, space, don’t use indoor trainer enough).

New feature coming zoon to Zwift - virtual hacking.

I only do free rides on the trainer, using fulgaz instead of zwift but I feel like it’s more fun with the climb. The action seems smoother than it did in zwift.

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Anyone put a kickr move on a rocker plate yet?

None that I have seen yet. It could be done particularly for those with pure lean action (lacking fore-aft) to get the full motion experience.

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So if fore-aft movement is great for comfort on indoor rides, and the new Kickr Move features this but the new Kickr Bike Shift doesn’t (as far as I can tell) isn’t that going to put people off buying the more expensive Bike? If it turns out to be a feature that people really like (and the reviews I’ve read seem pretty positive) then have to assume they’ll add the feature to a future Bike release as well.

Motion is tricky. It works well for quite a few riders, but it’s not for everyone. With respect to the Shift, Wahoo seem to be aiming it as the “entry level” smart bike despite the large price tag. It is well less than the regular Kickr Bike that includes the tilting Climb feature.

Adding even something as basic as fore-aft adds enough complexity that it adds some notable cost. Look no further than the difference between the regular Kickr V6 and Move for the $300 premium just to add that motion. Tack that onto the price of the Kickr Shift and you get ever closer to the full Bike.

I’d rather have fore-aft motion than tilt control if that was the either/or choice, but closing that price gap creates a more tricky choice for people. I do expect that we will see at least a few more options for motion in the smart bike scene, especially as they look for features to keep them fresh.

Please see this thread about an issue (either design or manufacturing) with the Kickr Move:

Have gotten a Kickr Move last week, upgrading from Kickr 4 with Axis feet.


I had the same issue with the unit being tilted out of the box. Easy to fix, but quite stupid that they didn’t make it work better out of the box.
The side to side movement is significantly more pronounced than it was with only the Axis Feet.
Obviously, the big feature is the front to back movement, which makes long Z2 rides and ERG mode intervals on the TT bike a little more interesting.
For hard, self paced intervals, and sprints/ racing etc. I‘d definitely lock out the front to back movement, as it makes it a little more difficult to get the power down out of the saddle.
Also, getting back into the saddle, usually makes the bike move backwards quite harshly, which isn’t that great of an experience.
From all the couple rides I’ve had (2xSweetspot, 1x VO2 max intervals all on the TT, 1x3h Road bike) I think the experience with the movement was more of gain, than it was annoying. Especially the daunting TT bike rides benefit quite a bit from the side to side movement.

Besides that, the added features of the Kickr 6 over the Kickr 4 are also nice to have. It’s super quiet, easy ramp is nice, as well as auto calibration. By far the best upgrade however is the WiFi connection and race mode. So much better than fiddling around with ANT+ and BT.

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Don’t need it…my wife wouldn’t want to know what I am doing anyway. :crazy_face:

Is it actually tilted or is your floor not perfectly flat?

I have the same issue, I had to unscrew the left foot almost all the way out to get the bike level: