A question on workout levels. It seems odd to me that Townsend and Fletcher are both Endurance 4.1. Does that seem wrong to anyone else?
Yes that does seem wrong.
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Maybe it’s just a matter of precision and Townsend is really like 4.06 while Fletcher is 4.14. The difference between them is minor, but I’d still expect it to show up in the one-decimal-point scale.
Question regarding workout levels for indoor vs outdoor rides.
For example:
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Same workout but different levels when done either inside or outside.
It’s the same for some other workouts but not all:
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So my question is. Is this a mistake? Or if it’s not then if I had San Cristobal scheduled but I want to do it outside, should I then find a similar alternative from the workout library that has workout level 4.0?
@IvyAudrain any insight?
Outdoor rides often have different interval length/intensity changes from Indoor to make them easier to execute. I’m picking that’s why they are different, though I haven’t looked at those two, the Outdoor is probably “easier”.
I’m going to sound like… not a nice guy, but that’s the only thing triathletes have been hearing for months and years. It’s on our list of updates. Two months now…
Sort of difficult to do a tri plan when you’re told to run for 60 minutes off the Polar Bear bike workout, but the Polar Bear bike workout is no longer there (and you can’t really match the new one to the old one by day or anything else - the week has two workouts kind-of similar to Polar Bear, the better candidate to run off of is on a different day, but it’s the middle of the week, so who knows).
Never mind the fact that a plan created by a coach (and Trainerroad is advertising its plans as such) would typically have some sort of coordination between swims, bikes and runs, so that you don’t do three super hard workouts in three days, etc.
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I reported a similar issue to TR support and they acknowledged it was a mistake and fixed immediately. I’d shoot them an email
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Wow I haven’t followed the development of the tri plans before but that sounds super bad compared to how it was when I did them in the past.
I get no levels when I do workouts outside. Anybody else have this
There is only 4000 posts about this:
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Hope you feel good about your very clever remark. Very helpful
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Also look up 3 posts and you can see the outside workouts at least have levels associated. If you actually read the question you would see I’m not talking about AT
I am sorry for my “clever” answer. The issues with AT are described in every way that is possible. If you were offended - my bad.
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What do you mean you get no levels?
Do you mean you don’t get adaptations to your levels? Or something else.
Currently only TR workouts pushed to Garmin head units are likely to work in the sense that they create adaptations but one or two people have reported that Training Peaks workouts also “work”. It seems that Wahoo units strip one of the required fields in the data file during transfer which is why they don’t “work”. Also you may need to fill out the post workout surveys and these have their own gotchas.
My (web) calendar shows that I’ll be doing Perkins -1 outside Saturday. It also shows Endurance 4.0. Is that what your are asking about? Or are you asking about what shows after you do the workout? (I’m an Adaptive Training user.)
I think that’s because they hit TR as custom workouts - so if you then push to Garmin from TR it’ll work like any other custom outdoor workout.
Hello all. Regarding Train Now (which I love right now that I have a little more experience) does it take into consideration also rest days.
For example, went for a long hard ride on Sunday and TNow suggests an endurance ride next, but I already took today as a rest day and usually ride 5 days a week. So tomorrow I would like to go at it again.
So, are full rest days included in the calculations, and if so, does it automatically adjust to consider something like “person A trains 5 hours a week so after a 4 hour ride they need 1 rest day” and “person B trains 2 hours per week so after a 4 hour ride they need 2 rest days”?
Just curiousity more than anything. Thanks for your input.
No it does not.
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Not sure if this has been asked but once you do another ramp test, it resets your progression levels (or it did for me).
Is there an ideal time in your progression levels before you reassess? Like when you’re at the top end in each area?
For example would I accept my FTP for what it is now and work to get the Progression Levels up towards 10 or even to 10 then reassess and start again?
I was under the impression that it’s good to reassess every month or two to see where your FTP is at but I’m not going to be taking my progression levels up towards 10 by then so if I did it every couple of months I would always be doing the lower Workout Levels.
Is it just personal preference whether I want to focus on Progression Levels or FTP?
It’s nice to see my FTP go up.
I’ve been using Trainerroad for 2 months now and loving it, so thank you!
Yes there’s several discussions and podcasts on the subject. Its intentional. If you were doing say level 9 of VO2 max etc at an FTP of say 350w and in your new test you got an FTP of say 400w, level 9 workouts at the higher FTP would be impossible. So you need levels to go down to make them achievable. How much they need to go down depends on the FTP change.