Ah I see.
Granted the workout I picked was much harder than I anticipated. Maybe I should let the ai pick something for me instead!
Does trainnow take into consideration progression of workouts?
For example ive been upping to vo2max
I did 2.5 min at 120…then last week was 3 but at 115… this week I did 3.5 at 112…
I was expecting a suggestion on that range of power/time… But most of the suggestion were like 1 to 2 minutes at 120…
It does in as much as those workouts affect your Progression Levels, but your Level in the respective Training Zone (and the duration you specify) is the only thing TrainNow refernces. So, to create an imaginary example, say you’ve recently done VO2 max workouts with long intervals. TrainNow will still include VO2 max workouts with short intervals in its recommendations if those workouts are at an appropriate difficulty level.
So the difficulty could be potentially similar to what i did this morning (3.5 min @ 112), but with shorter intervals (say 2 min @ 125%)…
Is that what you mean?
Exactly. Say you successfully complete a Level 5 VO2 max workout. This raises your VO2 max Progression Level to 5. TrainNow recommends VO2 max workouts with an appropriate difficulty level in comparison to your Progression Level (5) no matter their structure. They could have long but less-intense intervals, short but more-intense intervals, or it could be the recovery time between the intervals making the workout more or less challenging. At any rate, all the workouts it recommends for each zone will be similar in real-world difficulty and appropriate to your Progression Level in that zone, despite their potentially varying design.
Ah!
I like that…
I guess is difficult to see whats going on with so many things still hidden…
I guess once everything shows up it will make more sense of the wo its recommending and why.
This morning it just looked like random intervals… Happy to know there is some reason for the madness.
Just to check something, would TrainNow take into consideration if I’d been struggling with a particular type of workout (when showing me options of that sort)? From what I’m reading, it should, but I’d like to be sure.
TrainNow seems to be quite interesting. I’ve been checking it’s offerings every now and again to see what it thinks. I’ve manually adjusted my FTP a couple of times which resets all the TrainNow progression stuff.
It’ll be interesting to see, now that I’ve settled on an FTP number until end of base/next ramp, how long it takes to get an updated feel for my levels.
I just took one recommendation “Twin Peaks” and scheduled it in for Friday to see what it is like since I had to redo my training plan last night and ended up with multiple Palisades for this week.
It’s my understanding that the Train Now feature uses the training progression levels that will be driving the Adaptive Training feature. So if you struggle with VO2 then you might be a level 3 and Train Now will give you VO2 workouts that are around a level 3 and not throw in a level 8 that you can’t handle.
This is correct. It will take into account your relative abilities from zone-to-zone, but doesn’t look at your abilities for specific types of workouts (i.e. over-unders vs. sustained efforts). Also, remember that the more recent TR workouts you’ve done, the more accurate it will be.
TrainNow feature request: outdoors filter (as it seems many workouts are indoor only?)
Workaround: At the moment, I’m taking the recommendation and searching for a similar workout that has the outside toggle. (Example: black giant instead of black giant -1)
New user & first Forum Post - Thanks TR, joined as I’m excited for adaptive training. (Particularly unstructured outdoor ride integration using HR TSS)
Heres a thought regarding outdoor workouts… if they only make a difference if they’re official TR outside rides… can you load up a free ride of how ever many hours you are planning… ride as you like and TR will be able to use that for adaptation.
Is that how free rides work?
How does one successfully complete an endurance ride? And what is the progression if they don’t get longer?
It’s not like I’m ever going to fail an endurance ride on the trainer.
In the future once we implement that feature: YES. Unstructured outside rides imported to TrainerRoad can result in potential Adaptive Training suggestions as well. Will be pretty slick when its live!
Have to say I am loving this TrainNow feature and I am tempted to keep using it and not add a plan.
Last couple of weeks been traveling so that is the main reason I have tried it. Usually do 3 endurance either 1 vo2 max or sweet spot a week.
Nice to be able to not think about it and below is my workout today. Seemed just right and have been doing a few workouts I have never done in the library.
Be careful what you say, AT might recommend Bandeira 
Seriously, successfully completing an endurance ride is just like successfully completing any other TR ride: stick the power, don’t take any breaks (or not too many).
Endurance rides can either get longer, or harder. See the below example for 2 hour endurance rides (I fixed the length) which get progressively harder:
Interesting. Any chance you could put up the same search but for Tempo 1:30 to 1:45?
I’ve exhausted the 1:30 options for Endurance in TrainNow and don’t want to extend the duration midweek, and TN doesn’t include Tempo recommendations.
I hope Tempo is included in TN in time and I still don’t understand why it was subsequently excluded for “simplicity” when in the launch podcast it was included.
Here you go. I had to “print” this as a PDF, so this should show all tempo workouts that are 1:30 or 1:45 in length in progression order.
Workouts - TrainerRoad.pdf (123.7 KB)
Attacking == VO2 max type workouts. So not necessarily harder / easier than climbing
Many thanks
) for ‘climbing’ and a more sedate ride of circa IF = 0.8 for ‘Attacking’. I thought ‘Attacking’ is supposed to be the breakthrough/ harder one.