Lots of talk that M Van der poel appears to be riding an intergrated cable aero in the zwift add
I have just spotted in cycling tips TDF presentation gallery a movi star bike with no cables and the colorway pattern appears to be the same as MVDP’s in the zwift ad, albeit not in garish zwift white & yellow
Good find - also the other links by the thread contributors.
I still wonder what kept Canyon so long. Was it that data breach around the new year? Or mostly the Corona-Situation? But that came way later considering MvdP being already last year before the World Champs on it. Probably some design problems?
Anyways - doesn’t look too shabby. But also doesn’t look too fresh compared to the old one. Makes you wonder whether that is just some evolution or whether we will see some really cool engineering explained when it is officially launched.
Because - there has to be quite a bit of cool engineering or else this thing is old before it hits the shelves. Just from the look you could be afraid of:
overweight because of wide and deep frame shapings. Hitting a competitive weight just with their new CFR “unicorn hair” carbon would be a bit disappointing to say the least.
lack of comfort because of that deep aero-profiled seat post. Would also need some cool tricks to be comfortable
integrated cockpit without any adjustability. Doesn’t look like the solutions current new bikes use to be versatile and adjustable despite having all the cables tucked away. Would hurt all the more since Canyon is known for not being able to provide stem/handlebar combos in different sizes and for additional accessories (think clip-on aerobars, computer mounts, light mounts) being available only after years (not months) after the market introduction if at all.
Doesn’t has to be that way - maybe they have learned. But - it could be that this bike is already way too long in development (I’d reckon it’s delayed at least 12 months, if not more) so that these advances in the industry are not implemented by Canyon. We will see when it’s officially launched.
No, not really…again, black bikes sell. Bike companies spend a lot of time and money studying color trends. very few people “hate” a black bike and it is always in style…and many pople really like black bikes. Looks 'stealth", “modern”, “technical”, “fast”, etc. It just ticks a lot of the boxes consumers are looking for when buying a bike.
Other colors / designs can look dated quickly or are simply non-starters for many people. Black is completely neutral, both aesthetically and in terms of colors.
(another factor is that many “black” bikes are just clear-coated carbon, which helps save weight.)
“Old” aeroad still tests as one of the fastest bikes out there and is also known as one of the most compliant/comfortable aero bikes. So I’m not sure they need to do anything very drastic. Frankly just hiding the cables and giving the rest of the bike a bit of a facelift is likely to be enough to sell plenty of them.
As long as they haven’t messed anything up (e.g. Made it stiffer and ruined the ride quality, or come up with a hidden cable design that is a real PITA to work with) it’s going to be a very fast, reasonably comfortable and lightweight race bike with some big name riders like MVDP, at >thousand less than the equivalent build from Specialized, Trek, Cervelo, BMC, etc. Offering a greater range of handlebar options when you order (or even after market) would definitely be a plus, but doesn’t seem to have put people off ordering Aeroads or Ultimates with integrated bars in the past. Same with offering more paint options.
True - the old aeroad as well as the old Ultimate are still really good bikes. I myself ride an Ultimate amongst other bikes. Wouldn’t buy it new, though, since the Aerocockpit, as nice and fitting as it is (I happen to find the stock option just fit for me) it gave me a few headaches and also meant I couldn’t use the bike for some (admittedly even more niche then road bike racing is a niche in the whole cycling industry) endeavors.
And yes - these bikes will continue to be very good value for the money. But just look at all the current offerings of BMC, Trek, Specialized etc. Heck, even Rose, the other German mail order bike brand. All these have learned, that just integrating stems and handlebars for the heck of it gains you drawbacks and bad rep not only from customers, but also (professional race) mechanics, shops and the better press (of course in cycling journo, there are many un-critical press release jugglers keen on keeping their advertising revenue instead of using their brains and technical understanding). So the current offerings of these brands have either two-piece cockpits where you can interchange handlebar and stem independently and/or adjust the angle or downright also mount a normal stem and handlebar without foregoing the internal cable routing. And also have clip-on aerobar solutions readily available (Trek, Specialized) or doesn’t need it because as just said, you can mount a normal handlebar without compromising the cable routing.
Well - no use discuss this any further right now. We will see when it’s officially launched and then can simply decide whether it’s a cool bike to maybe purchase or if it’s just somewhat decent but doesn’t cut it to invest the own hard earned money for.