Hello TR, EPISODE #394 - @34:45 Jon: “Nate, we’ve talked about this in the company… I wanna rename Sweet Spot Base Program” Nate: “Yah, its NOT Sweet Spot… we shot ourselves in the foot” I’ve been using and learning TR as my own athlete for about the past year. As a technical XC racer, thank yo…

Balanced Base would infer that its balanced… which its not haha. Thats the whole issue with the number of intensity rides they are throwing on people. It builds short term and relatively fragile fitness that gives good results on ramp tests = keeps people onboard as customers. I understand that mo…

I personally wouldn’t say it builds fragile fitness… for me it built real measurable fitness that has a focus on sustaining threshold efforts. My issue with the plan was ssb2 was almost build in difficulty so the build and specialty plans would then fry me since i was already very close to peak fit…

[image] MWaterbury: I may be mis-listening to Jon & Nates conversation and misunderstanding that they are not implying that their Sweet Spot Base Program is exclusively Sweet Spot and that is ALSO includes Threshold & V02 work in the program? I think the naming issue largely stems from having…

It’s fragile fitness if you put it into perspective of the sport of cycling itself. Of course everything is relative, but I have a lot of friends that do TR, ride hard got great sustained power etc. And then we have myself and a few more that do a lot of Z2. And sure, during a single ride <3 hours…

Yeah, they’ve been discussing quite a bit lately that what they originally named the plans maybe wasn’t the most appropriate now that all the plans have fully been developed, since there is just as many rides in other zones as there are in sweet spot.

Sweetspot base 2 really is the odd one out, with 2 threshold workouts but only 1 optional sweetspot workout [image] Sweet spot base mid volume 2, why so much threshold? TrainerRoad Software Yep SSB LV 1 is sweet spot, sweet spot, threshold SSB LV 2 is VO2, sweet spot, th…

Agreed, the name is fine but all that threshold should be replaced by actual sweet spot IMO.

Totally agree with @Dubadai Sweet Spot Base is not “base”. That doesn’t mean that riders won’t get a benefit from it as many riders, especially new ones, do. But to call it Base is a misnomer.

And then we have myself and a few more that do a lot of Z2. For me doing 25-30 hour weeks with 1300 TSS You are doing double the time of the biggest volume weeks of any TR plan, so your base fitness here and the time you can commit to biking is beyond who TR is targeting with the plans. Traditio…

I never said that was a normal week, it was just an example week that I do when I am abroad. I average 11 hours per week, 5 sessions = One LT1, One LT2, and then just Z2 for the rest. You can scale down the program I ride to just one LT1 (like tempo), one LT2 (threshold) and just one Z2 ride, that…

Nate said "Sweet Spot Base is not... we shot ourselves in the foot" ...Confused? If the SS Base training isn't SS... What should I do for Base?

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Sweetspot base 2 really is the odd one out, with 2 threshold workouts but only 1 optional sweetspot workout

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