Metrics on new AI FTP Detection + TrainerRoad AI

[vipepes]

@Rizzi

It’s just this edge cases that us power users sometimes have a hard time wrapping our head around like this:

@vipepes

I have been training with around 310W FTP for some time now after completing a 20 minute test in Coll de Rates with 20min average power of 326W (also my all time best). My best 1 hour power is under 300W.

The first new AI FTP estimate for me is 352W.

That’s pretty wild for this user to see 352 AI FTP with 20min PB 326. Maybe have a look there.

I like your deep dives into those user profiles to understand more, which often turn out that the user only told half the story or gave some inconsistent RPE and I was just shaking my head and did not envy you and the support team. (But that does not seem to be the case for that user … as he showed PDC and told about very hard RPE ratings)

I am very much an edge case as a user anyway. I don’t follow any TR plan precisely, I do a lot of long endurance using “Free Ride”, and also go to long cross country ski sessions. I like to pick suitable TR workouts based on their difficulty rating and my long experience from TR workouts and endurance training in general. For my use case, AI FTP before the update worked amazingly well.

I mostly struggle with the fact that the legacy AI FTP gave very accurate numbers for me, even though I train a lot outdoors and didn’t follow plans properly. It literally gave me exact same FTP value compared to 20min FTP test, just hours before the test.

It would be interesting to find out what is the reason behind my obviously too high new FTP AI estimate.