That is SUPER interesting. Decent looking features, especially with that remote. Pricing that beats even my employee pricing for a Wahoo Headwind and this has better angle control. The Fly 01 is not even that much more than my best Lasko that lacks the remote.
I have no need for another fan right now, but this just moved to the top of the list.
I’ve used similar fans to that and while they do move a lot of air, the main drawback is the noise. The blower style is more quiet in all the testing I have done.
Add in the difference in how and where the air moves between these open circular fans vs blowers. I like the refined and narrow control with blowers that allows me to mix fans and directions and not get them killing flow of the others.
I’ve used several of these large circular ones, and while I got moving air and cooling, it’s nothing like a proper blend and placement of blowers for my needs at least.
Circular fans move a ton of air in a wider pattern, but a slower flow rate. These can swirl air around the rider and room to great a decent “flow” in the entire space.
Blower fans move a similar amount of air in a narrow pattern, but at a higher flow rate. These direct air on a prescribed area and the only flow in the room is the wash off the rider.
This faster & direct blower flow over my body seems more effective at evaporating sweat compared to a wider range of air with less speed. It’s all a but subjective though, when you mix in relative temp/humidity along with exact position and spacing of any and all fans.
This is kinda like Wahoo telling me Erg is a game changer. That directed column of air, and having to have 3+ fans is exactly what I don’t like about Lasko.
On the other hand, that single 5000cfm Dayton pedestal fan is absolutely a game changer. In the gym at 60-65F / 16-18C, and during/post-ride I see lower heart rates and only a small amount of dampness on my shirt. About the same heart rates as riding outside in 45F / 7C temps with bib tights / long sleeve base layer / long sleeve jersey. In the gym its bib shorts and dry-tech short sleeve shirt.
At home because of combined chest+face frontal coverage from a big Vornado with high cfm, it feels cooler (more evaporative cooling) than Lasko in front. During the summer I’m using these in a 80+F / 27+C unheated garage.
At home and in the gym I put my AirPods in and listen to music or podcasts or the news.
I didn’t test any Vornado fans. Their design and specs (Power = Voltage * Current) weren’t what I was looking for - which was high velocity airflow.
I tested several industrial-use axial fans in the hope they would have high airspeed.
This fan from X-Power was the best axial fan I tested, but still had air speed only in the mid teens mph.
All the blower fans I tested had higher air speed. The Lasko max performance is bigger vs the other Lasko blowers, and noticeably better.
There are some bigger industrial carpet dryer blower style fans that are stronger, but the Lasko has a very useful design that allows you to pivot the fan to direct the airflow. A typical carpet dryer fan needs to be propped up with books or pieces of wood to adjust the airflow direction.
Eg this thing is a beast.
These x-power fans are available in the US. I’m not sure what the airspeed would be of an African or European fan
Dayton fan in the gym at spin class, about 9 years ago
Vornado fan we bought at Costco and I started using 6 years ago after buying a trainer
adding a Lasko fan a few years ago (my kids bought it for father’s day)
That gym fan is absolutely the best, by a large margin. It plugs into a normal electrical outlet at the gym.
At home I feel cooler with just the Vornado when doing A/B testing. Just tested again recently. The Lasko leaves me almost too cold because of the narrow airflow, for example if its pointed at my chest, my chest is cold and my head and arms are sweating. Its a weird feeling to have cooling in such a narrow area of the body.
Of course turning on both the Vornado and Lasko solves that problem, along with helping me calculate the air velocity of wayward Kleenex, leaves, dust, and unladen swallows LOL.
I wonder if I’m better off getting a second fan, if the second fan should be in front or behind, or if something like this 14in turbo jet could be a one and done.
Not cheap but it’s a sealed motor and built for commercial purposes. Wood shops like them for DIY filter boxes.
I have tested the X-Power fan below. It’s a very similar design as the fan you linked to, but it’s more powerful (190W vs 140W). The fan I tested does not move air as fast as the Lasko Max Performance fan (in the mid teens mph, vs mid 30s for the Lasko).
I’d recommend you try a Lasko Max performance fan before spending money on any other fan. You can always return it if you don’t like it.
@DaveWh@WindWarrior at the risk of sounding a broken record, a couple people have re-mentioned a couple different Lasko “High Performance” / whatever models.
I got 3 blowers, including the Lasko U15617, and tested them side by side, and the Super Fan Max was approx double the others’ output, on speed 2 of 3. It’s also a much wider flow of air, around and past your shoulders, and over your head, instead of a small jet hitting and bouncing off your chest / face. Super strongly recommend you check it out. Also much cheaper (around $ 60 US I think) than the others. Probably because he’s not in as handsome a trim package as his brothers.
I also recall someone once got a list from Lasko directly, including CFMs, and all were around 250 - 375. The SFM is around 600.
Just re-mentioning for anyone considering a Lasko. This is, if I’m not mistaken, the only way to go. Much stronger, much cheaper.
Really loving the discussion & info being shared. Some of these monsters look amazing. But I’m both poor, and super happy w the SFM. I have to wear earplugs and glasses for the wind = I could not handle / don’t want “more”.
Hi Chris, thanks for clarifying. There was a lot of forum love for the U15617 which is the model I was gifted because it was on my Amazon wish list. I put it on my wish list because of the forum. Not sure which model the podcast originally recommended. Assuming it was the U15600 or U15610 or U15617 but I don’t recall.
Super Fan Max is your recommendation.
Regarding my comments on the U15617 I agree with your review:
“The U51617 has a very focused ‘beam’ of air. With the fan about 1.5 m = 4.5 ft from my face, on the floor in front of my bike, the air stream at my face is only about 30 cm = 12” wide. There is near zero air movement even beside my face, and absolutely zero over my shoulders. It’s honestly a very weird phenomenon to see & feel. It’s a very strong but very narrow wind blast directly to the face and upper chest. I ran it on setting 2. 3 was just way too much wind in the eyes. I’m not wearing ski goggles for indoor rides."
Exactly. I don’t like the U15617 as a primary fan. I prefer my older Vornado.
My bottom line: the U15617 is a great fan for DRYING MY CHAIN after washing my bike in the winter. To speed up drying so I can apply Ceramic Speed UFO Lube drip wax on the chain. Love it for that.
Your bottom line is to ignore the forum recommendations and its “Don’t buy Lasko U15617” and instead “Buy Lasko Super Fan Max”
This is not the fan I have. This is the Pro Performance. I have the Max Performance, which is noticeably stronger, and has a broader air stream vs. the Pro Performance (I have tested both).
Yep - this is a good fan. Based on the specs, it is stronger than the Max Performance. I prefer the form factor of the Max Performance however, with the fully adjustable airflow direction.
Yeah - hard to hear the TV with my fan going, due to the airflow past my ears. I have to watch with sub titles. Have gotten used to the airflow in my eyes.
It just arrived today and my 700+ CFM rated Vornardo now seems like a gentle, walking pace breeze on a spring morning.
I may build a box to go around it, leaving appropriate sized holes for the intake and exhaust. Or I may put a mohawk on the handle and large googley eyes on the front. I have to dress it up somehow so it can stay ‘on display’.
I’ve found the second fan behind me to be a pretty nice addition. It adds a whole lot of surface area that otherwise wouldn’t see much airflow. And it’s much less annoying than getting blasted in the face with a centrifugal/blower fan.
This conversation is bringing me back to parts of my heat transfer class in grad school.