Very interesting
Hah…as I was reading I was thinking “yeah, slap a Zwift Ride frame on that bad boy for the ultimate setup”….
Of course, @dcrainmaker was already ahead of me. 
Looks like a great option moving forward.
I didn’t know about such thing as Zwift Cog.
But that’s exactly why I don’t use the sim mode - the noise (horrible) and in fact a hassle of changing gears both front and rear… and it looks that solution solved the problem entirely.
And that “zwift race mode” that is also as I read nothing new solves delay issues.
I want this badly and I want it now!
It’s not even expensive, my stupid trainer was more expensive…
Man if this one holds up and delivers on everything it will cause huge headaches for the competition.
They don’t as things stand. Erg or single speed.
Just checked the video. It sounds great.
As an original KICKR Core user, I can’t help but wonder that this unit looks a lot like a copied version of the core. I don’t know what happened to the wahoo law suit but I get the feeling behind it.
Out of curiosity, what are features that are missing and worthwhile? The biggest missing feature in my mind is virtual gearing together with a Zwift Cog-type product. Both seem to not require new hardware. The other non-feature I would like is long-term reliability: my Elite Suito’s power numbers are off compared to my Quarq, both, in offset and slope. Initially, they were very close.
When it comes to indoor training, the most interesting product (to me) is not a trainer, but something like the Caveworks Rivet or the Elite Squaro. Sharing a trainer is a pita if you have to swap bikes (and free hubs).
The EU price for the Victory is 500€, the same as the Wahoo Kickr Core.
It’s priced the same as the Core in Australia too. Hopefully I can get one soon.
That’s a good list, although with the exception of 10 Hz measurements, none of them seem to require any major hardware revisions and are mostly software features.
- The odometer feature is a good one, hadn’t thought of that one. I’d love to know whether my Suito needs any service.
- Wifi, or, more generally, network connectivity (with a cable) would be much appreciated, then my trainer could update itself, too, just like my Bolt does. Plus, it is sometimes annoying to deactivate Bluetooth on a grabby device to ensure all devices connect to the correct device. Is there a standard to talk to trainers via wifi? A networking port should also be included, at least on the more expensive trainers.
- I’m surprised 10 Hz measurement frequency isn’t more standard.
However, all of these changes are rather small in the grand scheme of things. I’d trade many of them in for good quality control and the trainer just working a few years after I purchased it.
For that price differential, I’d still stick to the Kickr Core most likely. My experience with Wahoo’s customer service has been excellent.
CAD 799 in Canada and a Kicker core CAD859.
Not really cheaper than the competition. Although I think it packs more features than the basic Core. Not Sure.
Well Well Well. it seems that one @gpl has many nice things to say about the Jet Black Victory. If it’s a choice between this and the Saris H3+ for the same price ($399 in the US) Why would you buy a Saris except for the fact that there may be no Jet Blacks on the shelves. (bottom shelf actually because they’re kinda heavy)
Still not sure why CAN is 799. The exchange rate as of today for 399US would be 544CAD.
For me, its not a problem with how good their customer service is, its how often I had to use it with my Core
Might be worth trying to sell my core for 350 on FB marketplace and pick one of these up new
Surprised it wasn’t supplied with a belt.
Why?
Quieter, longer life, no maintenance, looks like the routing is already meant for belts with that tensioner setup instead of breaking the rear triangle.
(sorry, for the Zwift bike and not the trainer itself)
That just starts to open up the can of worms that Zwift missed: standard bottom bracket, multi-length cranks, seat fore-aft adjustment without touching the saddle.
There’s a number of reasons, some valid, some not some not so much. Volume and support logistics from distributors is often cited but there is often a premium because it is simply what the Canadian market will bear.