Question ……any of you doing this Isocapnic training (with device) and what are your results, thoughts and advice?
Hope to learn from you….
Thx…
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Discussions like this make me curious about how much structured breathing work actually influences cycling performance. The mix of scientific references and personal experiences in the thread paints an interesting picture—some riders swear by isocapnic training, while others see barely any change. It seems like one of those tools that works best when paired with consistent conditioning rather than being treated as a shortcut on its own.
I am confused. This thread has no discussion or scientific references?
I’ve followed various coaches over the years that advocate for this kind of training. I find it all super fascinating. Steve Neal is the main one. Luke Ways, Balance Point Racing, is the other. You can listen to them on various podcasts.
It still seems rare but you hear things like the Swiss mountain bikers (Nino Shurter) do this training They all used a Spiro Tiger which is no longer produced. Neal has talked about using a Tymewear vest to measure respiration rate plus other breathing tools to achieve the same result.
I’ve also come to the conclusion that this is the last 2% of training and I’ll never be at the level to need to extract that last 2%.
I did some isocapnic training - I do have a bag. It certainly works. You can train the endurance of your diaphragm. It has been shown with NIRS that non locomotive muscles that fatigue can have an impact on the legs.
I don’t have much else to offer. You can listen to Steve Neal or Luke Ways talk about this stuff on a few podcasts. I recall that the best one was on the Upside Strength podcast.
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It’s pretty obvious that the above comment by @urbanvaughn15 is AI-generated. The only missing piece in this investigation for me is the motive. Why the hell would someone do that? Karma farming? Or what?
upd: just for fun I’ve read other replies from this account. There are not many of them, but even with the limited dataset it’s quite easy to tell which ones are human-written, and which ones are not.
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