Ditto. Built the workout in TP. Need to figure out the transfer to my Bolt, and then have some fun 
Iāve heard this mentioned several times now with no response. @bnied, @Pete, @Nate_Pearson, @chad, @Jonathan, any plans to address this?
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As a Garmin user, one issue I see with this is that Garminās live TSS is generally quite a bit higher than TRās TSS calculation for the same workout even when the FTP is set correctly in Garmin. I donāt know why that is, but it does make it harder to know you have hit the right TSS target.
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āLive TSS a bit higherā - havenāt noticed this, although I donāt constantly look at TSS during a ride.
After the ride TSS matches up well, for example my last 3 outside rides:
Wednesday 10 April
- Garmin 1:14:54 moving time / 75.9 TSS
- TR 1:14:56 moving time / 75 TSS
- on this group ride I went off the back to ride in zone 2, and looked a couple times at TSS as my goal was to keep it under 100. Didnāt notice a ātoo highā TSS during the ride, and when finished the head unit was at 75 and thats what I saw after the ride on TR and Garmin Connect.
Sunday 7 April
- Garmin 3:18:57 moving time / 161.3 TSS
- TR 3:19:05 moving time / 159 TSS
- only looked at TSS a couple times mid ride, appeared normal
Wednesday 3 April
- Garmin 1:51:32 moving time / 145.7 TSS
- TR 1:51:34 moving time / 143 TSS
- didnāt look at TSS during ride
Garmin Edge 520 and Stages power meters (first with L-only gen2, and now LR gen3)
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Love this concept for sure - Iāve generally been making cue cards to ride outside, however today I have Mallory +1 which is pretty confusing for outside. The swap for outside is Eldorado Peak which is below. My question for @chad @Nate_Pearson and team is, if Mallory is over under why not swap with a more simplified over under instead of 3ā V02ās? Love TR all around just trying to understand better! Stu
"Main Set:
3 sets of the following
- 3x3 minutes between 354-370 watts with 3 minutes easy between intervals.
- Spin easy for 6 minutes between sets.
- After main set, ride 40 minutes steady at 200 watts.
Interesting, thanks for the comparison. Maybe there was a hiccup with my FTP somewhere in the system, Iāll make sure to check all the spots. Itās also possible that this was partially because this was because these were sprint workoutsāwhere data interval differences in the way the data is recorded/processed etc. would have quite a significant impact.
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Iām a little OCD about data, and havenāt noticed an issue between Garmin TSS and TR TSS. Only time there is a mismatch is when ftp differs between Garmin and TR.
After a TR ramp test I always forget to update Garmin ftp, and notice TSS mismatch after a ride or two.
Just built my first workout in TP. What a pain in the posterior. Head unit integration for my Wahoo canāt come soon enough!
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The opposite would make you an outlier around hereā¦
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This is going to be great!!! @Nate_Pearson, at the moment do we have to first go into our Calendar in a proper browser to set a given workout to outside? In other words, can I not simply open the TrainerRoad app on my iPhone when Iām getting on my bike outside the garage and cue up the dayās Outside workout right then?
true dat!
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My Garmin TSS was always higher than TrainerRoad TSS for outside rides UNTIL I realized that a privacy zone Iād set in Strava was tricking TrainerRoad into thinking Iād ridden fewer miles than reality. You donāt have that going on do you @cyclhist?
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Ha!
Iām not advocating for 1:1 inside:outside conversions. I think thatās unnecessary and slightly crazy.
Iām trying to understand why so many indoor workouts have wildly varied alternate versions when it seems as if the original inside workout could port directly over to outside execution unaltered.
And I wouldnāt even bother to pursue the question, except that I count at least a dozen other commenters in the thread asking the same thing.
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That would make sense, you basically vanish from the surface of the planet when you enter the privacy zone as far as Strava is concerned.
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We havenāt decided this yet. As I said above we might have the same inside workout be available outside as well.
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You can push piece meal workouts. This is just the beginning, weāll expand the option for outside only workouts scheduled on the calendar.
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Not right now. Weāre rebuilding the workout creator and I can see this being part of that.
There are no plans for audio queues (done by us) since we can now push workouts to Garmin and Wahoo.
Thatās a good question, I donāt know the answer. Iāll email Garmin and ask.
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For that, they are both working VO2 Max. We have finer grain control to match low vo2max with traditional vo2max but thatās going to take a bit longer to do.