I must have done a very poor job of communicating my thoughts because neither of the points you attributed to me were actually anything close to what I was trying to express.
But thanks for the reply anyway, I guess. Itās cool how active you are on the forum. Good luck with the outside ride feature and training plan API implementation.
The combination of all of this is looking really good. Thanks, TR team. Outside workouts directly imported into my Elemnt sounds like heaven. The idea of flexibility in timing through a lap button would be particularly usefulā¦
Donāt coast so much then.
Please help me understand. Could you phrase your issues again?
Well thatās not a very helpful answer
@Nate_Pearson, a few questions:
With the new Garmin API announced, will we have the option of pushing the indoor workouts to Edge head units as well or will this be limited to outdoor workouts?
Iāve never really stuck to a plan shock horror but chosen individual workouts based on time/fatigue/weather. Will we be able to push individual workouts to our head units in a piecemeal fashion or do we have to have a plan in the calendar?
Will we be able to push custom workouts to our head units as well, or only workouts created by coach chad?
Cheers!
Fantastic job Nate and good on you for keeping it quiet. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next race.
Great news thanks.
Canāt wait for head unit integration.
But until then, could you maybe also work on audio cues from the phone app?
Narrated by coach Chad of course 
Iām lucky to have a former airbase runway a 30 minutes warmup ride away, so up until now Iāve been able to do some TR-classic workouts there undisturbed, but this new feature is great news.
Thanks for the continued work you put into TR.
Much of TRās value to me are the workouts and plans themselves. There are cheaper apps that show you bar charts, but nothing like a plan that Iām actually going execute and that works for me (Iāve done the 70.3 base and build) after 3 seasons of not-always-satisfactory progress with other āvendorsā. So the fact that youāve gone beyond laying outside rides over planned workouts and that Chad has taken the time to āconvertā indoor to outdoor, changing the structure of the workout, is absolutely yuuuuuuuuuuge!
Will it only be the Edge, or will we also be able to follow workouts on the Forerunner 935?
Iām curious about this one as well. Iāve only got an old-skool trip computer, so am hoping I can push these workouts to my Forerunner 735XT watch.
@hubcyclist clearly knows the score
It would be really interesting to hear on the podcast some of the reasoning behind the way the outdoor and indoor rides are matched. Some of the switches make a lot of sense in terms of making them more simple to complete outside, but others seem less intuitive from a physiology standpoint.
For example, I have Dicks -1 (5x8min 105% 5min recovery) being replaced by Mount Carru (3 sets of the following 3x3 minutes between 401-418 watts with 3 minutes easy between intervals). So the workout is going from sustained efforts just above threshold, to VO2 intervals at 120-125%.
Iām sure a lot of thought has gone into how the workouts are matched, but some more insight would be great. Even if only to get an idea of which styles of workouts may be better kept indoors.
Oh, this is great. And also clever from you guys. Since it keeps you relevant for the whole year and not only the winter season. Because many (like me) are certainly puzzled what good is an intricate indoor training plan with many intervals if you would only want to ride one time in the week on the trainer anyways in summer. If at all.
I like the idea of getting special outside variants of the indoor workouts with regard of the outdoor realities and efficiency loss.
Now we more then ever need a clever built in way to also set indoor- vs. outdoor FTP!
My outdoor FTP is 15-20 Watts higher than my indoor FTP. In the calendar I always have to correct the FTP for each single outdoor activity to keep the TSS and Zones correct. I already had asked / proposed if we could have 2 FTP to set and TR would assign these accordingly. Now this is definitely needed since itās nice that I get the kind of cue sheet for which watts to aim forā¦ but itās all wrong and way to low. And - there is no switch or field to enter a higher outdoor FTP to get the right numbers on the cue sheet.
So that is proposal No.1: Have fields to set indoor and outdoor FTP.
Proposal No.2: While eventually our head units will get even more capable and blend into / use the same apps like mobile phones the current reality is that most / many / myself at least 
donāt want to have their mobile phone on the handlebar (certainly not as these things get bigger and bigger, or foldable) but prefer their Wahoo or Garmin. Soooo - anything you put on an mobile app will have to be a brilliant piece of added value to convince people to ditch their cycling computer and use their phone on the handlebar. I wouldnāt hold my breath for this. So - long story short: please just let me export these outdoor workouts to my Wahoo. That would be nice.
But cool work so far - Excited what will develop out of this. 
If you read DCRās report from the Garmin meeting, the training plan API supports loads of Garmin devices. Now as to whether the TR implementation will allow it, thatās another question; but Garmin devices have supported structured plans for a long time as weāll.
Quick correction to this post I made earlier in light of @JHowās post (#273 in the thread, if youāre interested).
Clearly what I SHOULD have said was ābecause there is no way with my current skill set that I personally could execute a workout like Junction outdoors with any level of accuracy or quality although clearly others probably couldā.
Thanks, I was too eager to get outside to read the whole thing.
We tested the idea of having a time multiplier for endurance workouts to account for this, but since that doesnāt allow us to account for everyoneās unique terrain situation this ended up not being the best solution. We came back to the idea of having the prescribed time be similar for endurance outside workouts with the disclaimer that you may need to ride longer than is planned to hit the prescribed TSS.
The prescribed workout instructions are meant to net the correct TSS, so if you are able to execute on those to the best of your ability then the amount of additional time needed after the fact should be reasonable. The alternative to this would have meant a prescribed workout that didnāt match what the prescribed duration was, and we felt this would have led to more confusion overall.
I know what Iām doing Saturday morning!
