Thanks for noting this @Eightball. Iāve updated the workout associations for Phoenix +1 and Slide Mountain. They should now be much better than what the original outside workouts were. Youāll just need to add these workouts to your calendar again to see the new outside workouts.
Weāre still tweaking some of the outside workouts, so appreciate whenever something doesnāt look quite right with the workout equivalents.
Thanks, I guess I am guilty of not looking closely at the new outside feature and was thinking along the lines of it making use of mobile phone GPS like some run or bike apps. Click on start workout and have it complete it on the plan with HR data recorded, etc. Maybe Strava sends that back when the accounts are linked, idk. I will investigate that further at some point if I decide to spend a few bucks on a decent run or multi-sport watch. I attempted a run with the Strava app on my phone and found it to be more of a bother than it was worth, but I also was running it on an old, low-end phone that is much smaller and easier to run with than my regular phone. I readily admit that Iāve been a slow adopter of tech into my workouts.
Iām two days and two āoutsideā workouts in ā hereās my feedback for what its worth:
Again, phenomenal product overall, and the updates just make it even better. Thanks for all you do.
There are other outdoor suggestions that I saw with 12 min. Why is this one modified to 8? Some SS indoors are nearly identical outdoors as well. Iām not getting the love fest on this even though I loved all the other upgrades over past year like analytics and calendar that converted me to annual sub. This outdoor alternative all seems a bit random, confusing, dilutes plan clarity and is a big distraction from lack of head unit integration. I certainly hope the eventual export options include the original indoor ones. I can dial in long Z2 power at 1.01-1.02 VI on our roads as well as 15-20 min intervals if I desire and see no reason to make arbitrary changes to ride outside that assume I canāt execute to plan. And if you ride with lots of disruptions, none of these will work perfectly. There is no one size fits all outdoors. And having one semi-random alternative to each indoor ride that still wonāt work for a lot of people certainly isnāt a necessary prerequisite to head unit integration. People need to just learn how to adjust the plans to their individual local riding constraints if they go outside. Itās not magic or rocket science. What would be magical is if we could send our plans to our head units 
You can do this already on Wahoo using the directional arrows on bottom in the planned workout screen. (As well as pause to get to training ground as you noted). Fortunately, TR doesnāt need to redo anything here for interfaceā¦ Just export the intervals and wahoo will do the rest!
You can upload the .fit file of any outdoor rides or runs to the TR calendar. If you go to Career | Past Rides, look for the āImport Ridesā button. I donāt think there is an auto-sync/import capability at this point in time. You can get the .fit file directly from the device or even download it from Strava via your browser.
When I saw this I was initially really excited. On Sunday, I sat inside like a dummy churning my way through Junction while it was sunny and 65-degrees outside because nobody in their right mind would try to do Junction out on the road and Iād figured Iād rather log the quality than the enjoyment. So seeing this was like a godsend.
But the more I look at this and dig into it the more my excitement waned. While I LOVE being able to now click on a workout like Junction and get a valid outdoor training alternative, I feel like there is also a lot of extraneous stuff here that is really confusing to me.
For example, as @GeorgeAnderson and @hvvelo have pointed out and highlighted, there are a lot of TR workouts that donāt NEED an outside alternative. Some of the workouts with complicated or difficult to execute structures deserve an alternative (Iām looking at you Junction and Spanish Needle). But others, like Mount Goode, or Kaweah, or Galena, or Antelope are so simple in structure that theyāre ideal to transfer outdoors as is. In fact, the outdoor alternative version of Kaweah +1 is identical to Kaweah +1 except that is has a different name and the warmup is 3-minutes longer. That just seems ridiculous; complexity for complexityās sake.
Even more confusing, some of the outside alternative workouts are almost exactly the same as some of the indoor workouts that then have their own outside alternative. The outdoor alternative ride for Mount Goode is Polhill, which is almost identical to Antelope, but then Antelope has itās OWN outdoor alternative called Poker Brown that is COMPLETELY different in structure from either Antelope or Polhill.
I really feel like this is a wildly complicated and overengineered solution to a much smaller problem; namely identifying those specific (and much smaller number of) workouts with structures too complex to realistically duplicate outdoors and creating a simpler alternative workout that provides the same physiologic stress adaptations.
At the same time, I donāt understand the wailing and gnashing of teeth about exporting workouts either. As several other posters have poined out, making power target based workouts in - for example - Garmin Connect or Training Peaks is ludicrously easy; it took me 10 minutes during my lunch break to replicate the next three workouts scheduled weekend TR workouts. At which point they can be exported to and run on the head unit.
I guess I really just donāt understand the excitement about this feature nor the angst about native head unit exporting. Frankly, Iād have much rather seen a few tweaks and updates to the calendar feature such as TSS projection bars and plan start finishes indicated in the TSS timeline.
Thanks, thatās good to know. This old dog may yet learn a new trick. 
Couldnāt agree with your points more.
Why the negativity? The āhooplaā is just people offering encouragement and support for the direction that the TR team is going.
Put another way, you wouldnāt begrudge supporters cheering someone at a race even when that person is not at the front.
Agree with your summary of the unnecessary complexity as very spot on.
Regarding export, agree the TP is kind of fast if you have a desktop/laptop on wifi network with bolt every day build them and to do the transfers - maybe 5 mins each as you get used to it. But the free account doesnāt let you go more than a day out. If you are loading 3 ahead Iām guessing you have paid acct? For those of us that donāt, itās shame on wahoo to make it this silly a process to start with, and a big opportunity for TR to make things easier. For now though, Iām sticking with the TP based exports - they are just a stupid irritant in an otherwise great software (TR) and hardware (bolt).
My 2 cents.
Like many others I transition to doing pretty much all my training outdoors around this time of year. I use the TR plans and workouts, and just recreate a more basic version in TP in order to export to my Elemnt Bolt. The recreated version pretty much maintains the same time in zones, TSS, IF, etc. so the adaptions from training are as close as I can get them.
That being said, this update doesnāt really do much for me other than saving the 20 seconds it takes to think of how to structure the workout. I still have to get it on to my head unit the same way.
Good step in the right direction, but it doesnāt get me too excited right now.
@hvvelo @GeorgeAnderson it is true that there are multiple indoor workouts that match to a particular outside workout. While we hope to build out more and more workouts, we didnāt feel having a 1-to-1 relationship between indoor and outdoor workouts was necessary to provide the proper training adaptations.
Outdoor workout equivalents are meant to hit the same energy system, and give approximately the same training benefit as their indoor counterparts. In the case of Geiger and Osgood, we felt the sprints at the start of each 8 minute interval make up for the intervals not being 12 minutes, along with the additional interval.
That said, we are definitely still tweaking the way these workouts are associated, and will continue to do so indefinitely, similar to how we constantly tweak the workouts in our training plans based on data and feedback by users.
We hope youāll continue to point out places where you feel there are inconsistencies so we can discuss them as a team.
I apologize. It was a poor choice of words. I appreciate any improvement and think that TR is a great product. I was confused since some people were talking like it was a revolutionary change and I couldnāt see that big a difference. I am looking forward to the future where the workouts automatically download and run on my Garmin
I think Cadillac and Spickard are also a suboptimal match. I like to use Cadillac as leg openers the day before a race and I think that 3x3 minutes at VO2Max of Spickard are much more taxingā¦
FWIW, I donāt think you had anything to apologize for. Your feedback was spot on with that of a lot of other posters here and there was nothing offensive in your language or tone.
Your constructive feedback expressing a lack of excitement is just as valid and useful, maybe even more so, than the āhooplaā.
You canāt make everyone happy, we all have different priorities on enhancements to TR. For example if TR updates off-road plans it is a big donāt care for me. The day swim and run imports go live will draw a huge positive reaction from a segment of TR users but Iām not going to drop into the thread and say āwhatās the big deal, TR should have worked on something else.ā Like I said, you canāt make everyone happy.
Thanks for reporting this one. Iāve updated it to what we feel is a better match for that particular workout. If you add Cadillac again you will be able to see what we changed it to.
@Nate_Pearson, this is awesome. Thanks for adding this feature! If you now get anything that resembles the Xert Workout Player (which does a great job for outside workouts), youāll have bypassed the competition easily.
In the past months of reading this forum I thought that TrainerRoad will always stay on the trainer. Itās a huge and fantastic step get an outdoor version of your current workouts.
And just in time for spring!
Great Job Trainer Road. Iām a new user and have done Base and into Build. I was planning to discounting TR workouts and do my own plan outdoors. Now I can continue the TR training plan.
I was able to bump my FTP 7% and looking for more. Keep on Innovating.