Question for any of you currently with access to the Beta: I did Baird +6 last week and tomorrow Bashful +6 is scheduled. Baird +6 was an All-Out RPE for me. Seeing as Bashful +6 is a slight step up, I’m wondering if anyone could check the ratings of these workouts and give me a suggestion on something to replace Bashful +6 with? Big thanks in advance!
These look to be similarly rated.
Looking at Baird +6 and some alternates, here is one quick option that may be better for you.
FWIW, I just went through the Baird/Bashful combo and found them pretty much the same - the extra 2% in the intervals is amply compensated for by the longer recovery valleys.
I’ve started using the rating in Training Peaks in order to get in that mindset. I think I’m going to have to remember those last harder intervals should not tell the story of the whole workout, even though they are the freshest in the mind. Maybe wait until a little later instead of rating right away.
Over the weekend I did 2 days in a row of big mountain, 3hrs z2 rated at 7.3. FYI to get to level 10 endurance one needs to do bandeira, which is 6hrs. My rear end is not ready to be a level 10 on the trainer lol
Fortunately, I have been using a default note format to add notes to all my rides. The very first two lines were subjective survey data that I had for current and future reference:
*** EFFORT ( 1 LO / 3 MD / 5 HI ):
*** HAPPY… ( 1 LO / 3 MD / 5 HI ):
This was formerly 1-3, but I just swapped it to 1-5 since the TR RPE uses that. Point being I have a habit of already doing this basic step, but need to apply a slightly different scale now. My general approach was to do a copy/paste with my default note right after finishing the workout. I used the basic feeling in the intervals and my general feeling of exhaustion in that final moment afterward to set my values.
As my usual self, I am over-thinking it all right now and considering the “new” rating with the finish of each interval. But I need to just roll with it and relax, let the workout happen and make the call at the finish. It’s necessary and helpful, but also is possible to alter after the fact, if you find your initial call was not the best. Just try to get it close and I think the system will figure it out, but that is a guess with minimal experience at this time.
Brain experimenting. Can/will anyone in the beta share which is the highest rated (hardest) VO2, 45/60/75/90 minute workouts, and the rating? I am curious how the length of the workout relates to the ratings. Since, it sounds like, a 6 should feel like a 6, whether it is 45 or 90 minutes, I’m wondering how high you can go in short workouts and whether there is an “ideal” workout length given an individual’s rating
Can anyone share the Spanish Needle -1 level? Interesting to see in this thread how the general build vo2max are ranked and I’d guess quite a few people may be using that plan right now. Tx!
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Ha, so 30 minute VO2 workouts for me! Thank you for the info.
It would seem like the rpe eating you give at the end should be more based on if you had to do it over again how do you feel. Way to easy so give me more on one end to I just barely was able to finish it at the other. The middle should be when it feels like the right level.
It’s about what it should sign to you next. If one part was too hard and the rest was fine then you would still rate it as hard if you were close to a failure
It was a grind getting through that last interval. RPE was high, felt slightly over threshold for the day, but I probably could have pushed through to stretch it out to 20, maybe 25 minutes–hard to say though. In theory, 250-255W is my MLSS/modeled FTP, although I haven’t put that to test recently.
some one have started to use adaptive training? i’m waitng the access…
Getting a little p’d off that my mates are getting added despite registering after me and not being on TR anything like as long… Oh well, I guess we’ll have to wait 
Are the Pol plans in AT yet?
- Not yet. They may be delayed with the related podcast that is being redone to address their training perspective.
If anybody can log those workouts in a week there should be a prize! 
Thanks Nate and Brandon for the responses, look forward to trying it out!
Interesting, I would have pegged spanish Needle higher and anaerobic is a relative strength for me! Still, 99 repeats is certainly different from 60 sec max 
Has there been any talk of TR sharing a list of workouts with their rating numbers? This would help a bunch of people make manual tweaks to our schedules while we await AT access. It might keep Chad Mcneese from having to constantly provide this info on random workouts people ask him about.