How was your RPE for that point in the interval vs earlier in the interval?
One thing I’m curious about…using a dumb trainer with speed / cadence sensors and bluetooth connection to my iPad, there is a bit of lag between the power im putting out and the power TR sees, especially on short intervals like vo2 or short sprints. Sometimes it will show that I didnt hit my target for the interval because by the time it was over, TR had just caught up.
So here’s the question…Will adaptive training see this as me not hitting my workout targets and scale my training back incorrectly?
Super excited about the development and I love everything TrainerRoad is doing. Thanks yall!
Haven’t looked for the post, but Nate answers this above - these would be counted as successful intervals. I’m guessing it would see the interval and providing it’s in the ballpark of what’s required by the workout, would assign a positive value.
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Yup, as mentioned, the ML will tend to learn your style.
But on the main topic, I have wondered as well. My take is to look at the entirety of the main work intervals. Some will feel worse at the beginning than the end or the inverse. So I try to “average” the feeling and pick with relative consistency on how that feels from workout to workout.
But like any subjective measure, it will be individual to a point. So trying to rate things similarly is the key, in order to give the ML a basic measure of how you feel with respect to the performance that it measures via the power (and HR?) data.
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Question for any of you currently with access to the Beta: I did Baird +6 last week and tomorrow Bashful +6 is scheduled. Baird +6 was an All-Out RPE for me. Seeing as Bashful +6 is a slight step up, I’m wondering if anyone could check the ratings of these workouts and give me a suggestion on something to replace Bashful +6 with? Big thanks in advance!
These look to be similarly rated.
Looking at Baird +6 and some alternates, here is one quick option that may be better for you.
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FWIW, I just went through the Baird/Bashful combo and found them pretty much the same - the extra 2% in the intervals is amply compensated for by the longer recovery valleys.
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I’ve started using the rating in Training Peaks in order to get in that mindset. I think I’m going to have to remember those last harder intervals should not tell the story of the whole workout, even though they are the freshest in the mind. Maybe wait until a little later instead of rating right away.
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Over the weekend I did 2 days in a row of big mountain, 3hrs z2 rated at 7.3. FYI to get to level 10 endurance one needs to do bandeira, which is 6hrs. My rear end is not ready to be a level 10 on the trainer lol
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Fortunately, I have been using a default note format to add notes to all my rides. The very first two lines were subjective survey data that I had for current and future reference:
*** EFFORT ( 1 LO / 3 MD / 5 HI ):
*** HAPPY… ( 1 LO / 3 MD / 5 HI ):
This was formerly 1-3, but I just swapped it to 1-5 since the TR RPE uses that. Point being I have a habit of already doing this basic step, but need to apply a slightly different scale now. My general approach was to do a copy/paste with my default note right after finishing the workout. I used the basic feeling in the intervals and my general feeling of exhaustion in that final moment afterward to set my values.
As my usual self, I am over-thinking it all right now and considering the “new” rating with the finish of each interval. But I need to just roll with it and relax, let the workout happen and make the call at the finish. It’s necessary and helpful, but also is possible to alter after the fact, if you find your initial call was not the best. Just try to get it close and I think the system will figure it out, but that is a guess with minimal experience at this time.
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Brain experimenting. Can/will anyone in the beta share which is the highest rated (hardest) VO2, 45/60/75/90 minute workouts, and the rating? I am curious how the length of the workout relates to the ratings. Since, it sounds like, a 6 should feel like a 6, whether it is 45 or 90 minutes, I’m wondering how high you can go in short workouts and whether there is an “ideal” workout length given an individual’s rating
Top list for each time, sorted by “Progession Level” highest at top:
45 mins:
60 mins:
75 mins:
90 mins:
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Can anyone share the Spanish Needle -1 level? Interesting to see in this thread how the general build vo2max are ranked and I’d guess quite a few people may be using that plan right now. Tx!
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Ha, so 30 minute VO2 workouts for me! Thank you for the info.
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It would seem like the rpe eating you give at the end should be more based on if you had to do it over again how do you feel. Way to easy so give me more on one end to I just barely was able to finish it at the other. The middle should be when it feels like the right level.
It’s about what it should sign to you next. If one part was too hard and the rest was fine then you would still rate it as hard if you were close to a failure
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It was a grind getting through that last interval. RPE was high, felt slightly over threshold for the day, but I probably could have pushed through to stretch it out to 20, maybe 25 minutes–hard to say though. In theory, 250-255W is my MLSS/modeled FTP, although I haven’t put that to test recently.
some one have started to use adaptive training? i’m waitng the access…
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Getting a little p’d off that my mates are getting added despite registering after me and not being on TR anything like as long… Oh well, I guess we’ll have to wait 
Are the Pol plans in AT yet?
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- Not yet. They may be delayed with the related podcast that is being redone to address their training perspective.
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