Seriously though, this context is quite refreshing and eye opening. It gives me some optimism that I may be able to simply use PB to set a plan and trust AT to set me straight without trying to break me in half.
Honestly, I still have some reservations with re-adopting the standard work / recovery schedule vs my altered versions that have worked really well for me over the last 1.5 years or so. I know those more frequent recovery weeks are what allowed me to suffer through and, more often than not, get relative successes on those SUPER HARD workouts. But I also know those were almost always a stretch for me, even in my younger years.
All that to say that this is I like what I see right off the bat. Hopefully this will be positive in the eyes of other masters users and anyone who struggled with the âdefaultâ TR plan layouts and workout prescriptions.
Just to add to this, the specific workouts will change, but the rhythm of your plan wonât. A recovery day wonât be replaced with a hard workout, a day off wonât suddenly become a day on, and workout lengths will only occasionally ever change, and only very slightly when they do. So itâs really only the specifics of the work itself that changes as your plan adapts.
I would be interested in this as well. Perhaps a custom âplanâ put into the calendar could be adapted? I realize this is probably considerably more work as the system wonât necessarily know the goal of my custom plan and maybe this isnât really feasible, but Iâd like to at least throw out there that thereâs some interest.
I usually structure my base progression with a philosophy somewhat matching that found in the âSweet Spotâ thread, i.e. increasingly long SST intervals out to at least 2x25/2x30 before moving on to build. Iâll probably use the built-in LV SPB plan. And then finish with a custom specialty plan that pushes out SST duration well past an hour. The sweet spot durations in the built in plans feel insufficient for the long distance events I target (but I could be wrong! Maybe Iâm being a "special snowflake! lol).
In any case, donât take this as complaining. I love the product yâall are putting together, the community here, and TRâs responsiveness to its users.
Follow up question: Could the planned energy system change as well or will AT just give me a easier/harder workout for the energy system that was originally scheduled for any given day?
I guess I was asking how it would take into account these types of failed workouts due to whatever reason that have already occurred? In my case the ramp test wasnât accurate due to losing connection.
I seem to remember something from the podcast how the AI would be looking at all past workouts for determining progression levels. But these past workouts would not have any info via surveys on them.
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The system is just looking generally at your past workouts to get a good starting assessment of your Progression Levels on which to build. Donât stress over device issues or any other struggles in your workout history. By design, AT learns and reacts very quickly to your performance and current capabilities.
K. Thanks for the quick response. Since it was a âramp testâ that failed due to device failure I was concerned it might put more weight on it then just another workout.
This is probably a point worth repeating or making dominant in communications to existing users.
Whilst I took to structured workouts fairly quickly, structured weeks and months took much longer. Plan Builder made me feel a bit uncertain in planning my year, Adaptive training did also, and Iâm sure I wonât be the only one.
Sort of. You could go back in the calendar and see the workout levels you were doing. Weâve been discussing historical views so that you can mouse over your TSS calendar and see your highest level in each training zone per week.
We were just talking about this! I originally had a bad idea to make everyone level â4â across the board when they manually change FTP. We saw some bad rides come in on the beta after that so weâve now made it like if you did the ramp test. If you manually change your FTP you will have a more progressive step in all of your levels.
Thereâs been a lot of people wanting us to get people in faster to the beta. Here are our current issues that we found in this round that weâre fixing.
That means this work is almost done. âPRâ means âPull Requestâ. In the above image that means Alden has submitted code to fix the âCheck for adaptations after reapplyâ.
@Nate_Pearson A few of us asked about this about a million posts up in this thread and I think it got lost. Are there any medium term plans to add prospective data into the featureset such as âon a dietâ? I could see some of your menstrual cycle data being something like this as well. It is one thing to tell the model a workout went badly because you were 750cal per day restricted for 2 weeks (or a woman on her cycle at x point, or pregnant, or in a house that just had a new baby) and it is another thing to tell the model that before a workout and let it make better recomendations. The tech related to this feels like its in the same wheelhouse of work you already have in place.
You need a great chef and great ingredients to produce something special. Just because someone else is doing âMLâ, doesnât mean they will come up with the same output.
Just like if I had great ingredients I wouldnât come up with the same dish that Gordon Ramsey would.