Which I guess brings up another issue which is that your core body temp isnāt directly correlated to the ambient temperature but rather the entire thermal environment. Doing intervals at 80F on a fast flat, up a steep climb, and in my basement with a crappy box fan will all have vastly different impacts on performance. Itās all the same ambient temp but my core body temp will most likely be way different.
Nate said previously in the thread that the cost for existing users will stay the same.
As an aging Masterās athlete, this is exciting. To be honest, I had a growing concern that my increasing age was becoming a problem for proper recovery while following a mid-volume plan. As Nate said, the current plans are understandably setup to hit the 80% within the center of the bell curve. As I head towards 60, Iāve been developing nagging knee injuries and feeling a bit tired as the TSS would ramp up week after week, and I was feeling I was moving into that 20% not really addressed by the plans. However, this development promises to help aging master athletes like me. Because of this, Iām staying with TrainerRoad well into the future. Finally, Iām no fan of the ramp test. My results seem to vary greatly on my attitude heading into it. Earlier this week, I felt my attitude was middle of the road and came out at 4.1 W/Kg. Iām looking forward to being able to progress my training without having to psyche myself up for a Ramp Test every 4 or 5 weeks!
USB temp/humidity sensor support should be a pretty easy add to the PC client. Other platforms could be a little harder to implement. Elevation data capture to compensate power targets for air density different to your normal training elevation would also be pretty cool even though it would be pretty much edge case for most users.
Sounds like people want something more like a dropdown menu that you can choose intensity in 10% increments or something like that.
But even now, you donāt have to press anything 120 times to get to your desired intensity. Just highlight the current percent and type in the percent you want. Takes 5 seconds.
From what was explained, AT will tune a structured plan for you, but I donāt think it can effectively adjust the plan at the macro level, e.g., realize you need a recovery week every third week instead of every fifth week. If Iām right, you will still need a coach to look at your progression and recommend a change.
Nevertheless, I agree with Nateās reply that this should be a huge improvement for us older athletes. Iām really looking forward to it.
TR team, please correct me if I misunderstood what you presented in the podcast.
The Feature Request weāre discussing is for mobile apps:
ā¦because on mobile there is no typed input or other shortcut method, so you have to tap +/- once for each percentage increment/decrement, hence 240 taps per workout in my case. Hard to argue that this aspect of the UX doesnāt need improvingā¦
Signed up for Beta and on the waiting list. Since then every email notification Iām 
with anticipation then 
when I realize itās NOT the TR invitation for ML training. The struggle is real. @Nate_Pearson have I mentioned how awesome you are and that the TR way is the only way.
I kind of have the same question.
Is the ML going to recognize over-reaching and drop in a rest day @Nate_Pearson, or week?
Or is that a roadmap mile marker on the horizon?
This cannot be done on mobile phones, unfortunately. We have to tap the button that much to get the increase weāre looking for. There is no way to edit the number directly.
That is my concern too. Too much focused on individual workouts per athlete instead of looking into the big picture and understanding each athleteās fatigue and what they should be doing every day (including rest) in order to achieve as best as possible their goals.
I am SURE this was a #feature-request at some point, but it would be cool if the iOS app could default into a companion mode (if TR is already in an active session on a users account elsewhere) to control interval skips and levels would be great. I run TR from a laptop 99% of the time and while typically I just do the workout as prescribed, it would be nice to not have to dismount to change effort levels etc.
ALSO, to my thinking it could the give the ability to give a survey response after an interval or set of intervals; giving TR a more granular data set vis a vis intraworkout RPE etc.
So I was thinking about a potential workaround for the outdoor ride issue for long z2 āunstructuredā rides until AT incorporates them. I think Iāve read most of the thread, but apologies if someone suggested this earlier.
Couldnāt you in theory just schedule an endurance ride from the library like Appalachian, Flattop, Highland, etc, thatās close to your time and intensity goals, then set it as an outside workout? AT would pick it up, you could rate your effort and so on?
Itās not perfect, but maybe it would work till an update.
New to the Forum - apologies if this has been covered elsewhereā¦ are all the āenergy systemsā (the adaptive training zones) based off FTP alone?? Using other applications e.g. WKO5, my optimal VO2 zone is not simply 120% of FTP. Far from it. Once you get more intense than threshold (FTP) the variability between individuals increases dramatically. How can AT work effectively if all workouts are defined from just the FTP metric?
I imagine this would work. It sounds like the ML will adapt using any TR workout regardless of indoor or outdoor completion, even if it wasnāt the one initially planned that day. Also, for plans with sweet spot on Sundays (generally MV and HV plans), the tips text for that week always has a Z2 or tempo alternative workout to use for that day. Swap that sucker in and pop it to an outdoor ride (I did this all the time last summer to enjoy my Sunday rides in the sun) and I would assume you should be golden.
Based on what they said on the podcast, the FTP sets your baseline and based on your feedback to the post workout survey as well as the ML checking a bunch of features, it will recognize your performance and increase your VO2 interval intensity to match your progression while maintaining progression for all the other energy systems. So basically FTP is a starting point and it will learn from there. The ultimate goal being that you never have to test it again because the system will learn with each workout and just know what fits your current fitness level.
100%! This is my exact question also. I searched on the term āWhoopā (tried searching ādata setā). The AT podcast kept talking about pulling in vast amounts of data, I kept asking myself, āwhere is the data going to come from?ā.
It wonāt right now, but it sounds like something they might do in the future.
Just guessing here, but Amber made it sound like it will handle it fine. Worth doing it and seeing what happens. If itās not the result you think is appropriate, just let them know so they can review it.
Great questions, but I have no idea what if anything happens after that.