Note, my actually āPlan Builderā start day is back dated to Mid-Dec, but since I was doing adhoc pland (my modded version) leading to this, my real PB doesnāt start until this Saturday. So there are differences in how this looks for future workouts than it will when I get into the actual PB section.
LOL, Iām not quite as much of a stick as Coach Jonā¦ but close 
And I sure have a ways to go (as in never gonna happen at my age) to ever dream of his power 
- That is the name I gave to my Plan Builder plan (total garbage name change from the default).
Looks pretty cool. I feel like this instant feedback carrot-on-a-stick progression level thingy is really gonna be a big motivator or me
There is no reason to take my words personally. I appreciate the sweat and tears, especially of those people who burned out on the MV and HV plans.
TR definitions avail for the w/o descriptors ā achievable, breakthrough, stretch, et al?
Just thinking, one major advantage of the machine learning training plan is the workouts themselves arenāt that important in terms of intellectual property. Meaning if some other platform has a better workout playback ui that has a good way to run other workouts tr may be more open to allowing it.
An I the only one who likes the immersion of zwift workouts? Iām not taking about the crappy workouts and the structured training, but the 3d virtual environment.
I will tell you this. I just got access last night before my Mary Austin -1 workout. I poked around a bit and launched the workout. Leading into this workout, I had serious doubts about my ability to do it based on the IF, and my past history with it.
From my quick look, I had seen prior workouts at Stretch and Breakthrough, and looking at how TR set MA-1 for me, as Stretch. I took that and had a positive outlook, then proceeded to fuel and rip through each set. Knowing I would likely have the survey at the end, was kind of an āaccountabilityā carrot.
Iāve been doing detailed notes for over a year now, which already included my own RPE scale and related info. But knowing that my specific performance, and my RPE at the end would be part of a greater picture to set my future direction was a new āaccountabilityā aspect for me. It was motivating for me, especially as I found that this workout fell into the āhard but doableā range.
That new Level info is super valuable to me to better frame the potentially difficulty compared to me trying to guess from IF and duration, as well as past workouts. I still think my notes are valuable, since the go further than the simple TR survey, but the mix is something I like initially.
Are you doing the Haute Route and a workout on top of it? Savage
Hmm, I checked my records and my memory of Polar Bear doesnāt match the record. Ive started Polar Bear five times but only finished it once, +1 cant be easy 
How did you find the workout scores? I cant see them on the website or app
I put the HR on the schedule, but am skipping today for sure. I still have the same default workouts scheduled, and may just do those this year.
I really loved the HR last year, but scheduling isnāt as good this season, so I am likely to skip. But I like seeing what was on my schedule, even if it was pending and I choose to skip it.
I did run Zwift simultaneously for a while, but noticed I was hardly looking at the screen lol. Iām back to music only now.
Chad, the other side of this for me is when a workout is āAchievableā but for whatever reason Iām feeling unmotivated or underconfident. The assurance that the workout is within my ability is a HUGE motivator to just get on and do it. Iāve surprised myself multiple times in the last few weeks, with workouts that look intimidating but end up being comfortably productive. One of the most interesting things AT has revealed is that the way a workout ālooksā (be it the profile of the intervals, or the TSS, or whatever else) is not always reflective of the actual subjective challenge. Some of the workouts Iām completing easily I never would have assigned myself based on appearance, while others that AT recognizes as a big challenge and in-fact turn out to be so are ones that would have looked easy.
I cant wait for the AT to tell me to try another sport
Updated based on Nateās comments:
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Achievable = money in the bank, might be a little bit hard, but itās not really a stressful one
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Productive = pushing your level forward
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Stretch = not necessarily prescribed by TR, hard and may be a tad above your current progression in that system
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Breakthrough = many levels above your current level, massive performance well above expectations
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Not Recommended = guard rails of workouts you should avoid entirely
Soooā¦similar to WKOās āTraining Impact Scoreā.
Just from cursory views of example plans thrown into the thread, Iām not sold on the validity of āBreakthroughā.
Like most things in endurance sport, time will tell.
Thank you, Chad M!
(p.s. ā whatās going on with your TR trip??)
Yeah, it seems to be a ānewā way to look at them and is something like what I had hope to find via a way to blend IF and duration. Your system seems āsimpleā to review and plan for, despite being quite a bit of work to establish (by a guess at least).
I totally misjudged a workout earlier this season and got beat up by a Thresh workout that looked like SS based on the graphic. My own fault for taking that pic only and not reading the actual WO info.
But I think this system will keep that from ever happening again. I want to give a HUUUUUGE thankyou for using colors in addition to names and such. That makes it super quick to see the expectation without having to pay extra close attention 
Crystal meths at 7pm! 
Do APIās for Whoop and Oura exist that could give you access to data directly from those systems, similar to pulling from Strava?
