šŸŽ‰ šŸŽ‰ šŸŽ‰ Introducing Adaptive Training! šŸŽ‰ šŸŽ‰ šŸŽ‰

I assume this is because it’s updating in the background… but all the same, it did amuse me.

I’m pretty certain I could raise the temperature of a country with that TSS.

Sadly that didn’t seem to work. Plus it changed a bunch of my plan… but this time I took a photo!

I guess I’ll just see what adaptations it gives me on the fly. The first are quite dramatic (it swapped a 5.5 Threshold for a 5.1 and an 8.9 Sweet Spot for a 7.9)

Train once and you have a training for whole block done! New level of efficiency for time crunched athletes;)

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but those adaptations aren’t very dramatic at all. Changes in the decimal number are relatively minimal changes in difficulty. Changes in the whole number is where it gets dramatic. Going up or down 0.2 is very small compared to even a change of 1.0.

The full 1.0 change on the sweetspot workout was what I was talking about, but even so, the 5.1 Threshold option looks considerably easier than the 5.5 that was planned originally.

Unrelated, if it has given me a session I know I can’t do (I’ve failed it twice, and my calorie intake / work levels right now means I’ll fail it again) am I best just doing it and failing, or should I try and find something a few points lower and try that instead?

I just noticed that today has ā€œRest Dayā€ in the box, I’ve never noticed that before. Is it AT, new app, or always been there?

Is every Thursday in your calendar set to rest day?
Depending upon which plan you are on it is likely that the plan schedules a rest day each week.

Nope, all the rest just say ā€œNo planned workouts or racesā€.

:man_shrugging:

Thursday is one of my rest days, I’ve just never noticed TR to note it as such.

Doesn’t it say ā€œrest dayā€ if you’re on a plan? Mine does. It reverts to ā€œno planned workouts or racesā€ when you get to the end of the plan.

You may be right, perhaps it’s because I change all my days around to line up with my kids preschool/my shift work, but none of the Thursday or Sunday’s I can see with a quick scroll have it.

I was hoping it was some AT thing assessing training load (advising against an extra workout for example). It’s not consequential anyway, I’m just curious where it’s come from as I’ve never seen it before today.

I noticed it too. Seems to display when you get to that day with nothing scheduled, until then it still says ā€œno planned workout or racesā€

Makes sense. I like the look.

I did a ramp test yesterday and my FTP increased a few watts, but my progression levels didn’t change at all. Is this expected, or should I open a ticket?

@TrainerRoad Team.

I’ll be taking a couple of VO2 tests, once in a couple of weeks and again 12 weeks after that (part of a trial).

I’d be happy to share my results if you bump me into the beta group soonish so i can get a baseline prior to AT.

A sprint effort could give you a breakthrough, a 1 min effort could give you a breakthrough etc. You don’t need to do an FTP test.
Xert is incredibly accurate. It looks terrible, is complicated and definitely needs refinement. But I’ve been using it since the early days and invested time to learn what it is about You have to step away from FTP, TSS, % of FTP based training etc it’s a different concept.
It does take a bit of effort to learn as it’s not like anything else and I get that a lot of people don’t want to do that and are happy to stick with the established training methods (that also work) but I see a lot of people on this forum knocking xert without understanding it and because it doesn’t look pretty which I think is unfair. As humans I think we use this kind of dismiss anything we don’t understand or have as some kind of defence mechanism. Just because we don’t use something doesn’t mean it is rubbish.

Normally I would tell the same but working in branding, if people tell you similar reason for not using your service you have to start to wonder ā€œmaybe it’s me?ā€.

The idea behind xert is appealing but the way they present it to the customer is horribly confusing and simply not understood by people. It is not only matter of look, but educational part. In my opinion TR strongest side is whole package. As a noob I had a knowledge from podcast to understand basics, simple interface to easily introduce me to the software and clean look that allows me to focus on meritum not being irritated every time I have to use the app (I call it zwift paradigm, the worst offender of them all). Xert simply needs the brand. Even the best idea not understand by the users is worthless leading to situations like endless discussion what really polarized training is.

Someone else will know better than me but I think they’ve separated out the single FTP metric from the various levels (7 I think) and the latter will move independently and improve you.

You can Do different sorts - yes…
Quote from the xert Website: " ts always a good idea to try and maximize your maximal effort time. You can use an FTP test, Ramp test, or some other type of fitness test if you would like. In fact, you will find some Fitness Tests for Breakthroughs in the library…"
Sprint Ing is only one measurement…
But, i know, you are using it for years…

Would be surprised by this. If I’m maxing out at say a 7.0 on my VO2max workouts, then add 10% to my FTP, I’d be VERY unlikely to still able to do a 7.0 VO2max workout. At least not for a while.