I tried Strava Premium for analyzing data and don't think I like it

I’m on the Strava Premium trial and other than the maps and the Ai kind of giving you support on your workouts, I’m not feeling it.
Trying Intervals ICU now but can’t get it to download my TR workouts and the site has a lot to learn.
I know Training Peaks has some good data but don’t want to pay that much unless I get rid of Zwift.
What is everyone else using to analyze data?

What do you want to analyze? That will drive your decision. I mostly use Training Peaks out of habit, but rides also link to intervals.icu. Each has their strengths. For really deep analysis it will be hard to beat WKO.

I’m still learning all this so for now more historical training trends.
WKO is that the off line version of TrainingPeaks?

@Kendogz161 I use intervals.icu primarily & TR secondarily. To get workouts onto intervals.icu, upload them to Strava (non-subcribed) & let Strava push them out to intervals.icu.

I pay intervals.icu some tiny recurring fee, so that may differentiate our experience with that site.

Depends on your goals? What type of analysis are you trying to do?

Online I use intervals, offline I use wko5 or Goldencheetah.

Just echoing that to get TR workout info to intervals.icu, push to Strava. Then pull from Strava into intervals.icu

Once you set it up, it’s automatic.

Edit: should note that you need to sign into intervals.icu at least once ever four weeks on the free version, or else it will stop pulling Strava data. It’s slightly annoying if you ever miss it and a workout doesn’t get synced.

You can’t go wrong with Intervals.icu. It’s a fantastic platform and the team behind it is very reactive. Highly recommend. I use it primarily + TR for training only.

I use intervals.icu aswell but I also use this quirky plug in and I like the summary info it gives me.

It’s pretty easy to build your own now with AI. If you are on Strava you can pull on your data using its api. The beauty of this is that you get what you want exactly how you want it and those killer features you always wanted are easy to build. Now some people will be dead against using AI and that’s fine but in less than 2 hours I had a web based app that was more personal to me than TrainingPeaks and easier to use and just had the information I needed. BTW, I do pay for TrainingPeaks but probably not for much longer.

In general, I don’t think Strava has improved in the last 5 years. I still don’t like its route builder, I use ridewithGPS for routes more than anything.

Ahah I didn’t want to mention that but this is exactly what I’ve done. Built my own, local first and cross-platform, training analytics app with all the features I use and want.

what dows this AI tell you that TR does not?

Nothing. But by building my own I get all the metrics I want in the format I want. The one thing I have got is my target fitness for an event and it currently tells me if I’m on or off track and by how much and how I can get back on track in a if sustainable way.

I’ve also built a calculator that estimates what fitness I need to be for an event and it will analyse the route and provide a detailed overview of the demands of the event with an estimated stress score and power targets to stop me overcooking myself.This is not something I’ll actually use in an event but it’s a pretty cool way to be able to visualise an event before you do it.

It also allows you to specify your training. I do a lot of sportives all around 100 miles but the type of climbs - steep ups and downs with little recovery or long shallow climbs with long decents and plenty of recovery. Means I need to focus my training in different areas. TR doesn’t allow me to do this yet but my AI developed training platform does.

Connect Strava to Claude. It does a great job at analyzing past data. Builds beautiful dashboards. Compares similar rides. Even breaks down rides into 1h chunks and overlays wind direction to better compare power output. Creates a training plan based on your activities. If you connect Garmin it will add recovery data and give suggestions. It is an all in one coach for me. I only now wish it could connect to TrainerRoad and have access to all its library and select rides for me directly.