How to move a rest week?

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Hi

Coming back to TR after a break, I’m not sure, but how do you move a rest week ? In the (distant ?) past you would us the push/pull function move the weeks about, reading some threads and you are supposed to use annotations, but in some recent threads it has been started that time off doesn’t adjust anything as holidays can be stressful , fair dues, but how do you annotate the calender to “this is really my rest week”

I want to do this, so that if I pull or push my rest by a week (although why does a rest week need to start on a monday) the plan has the right ratio following (not 2 or 4 weeks till the next week)

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Hey, welcome back!! :heart_hands:

Yep! When you need to take time off the bike - be it due to illness, injury, or vacation - add a Training Adjustment and TrainerRoad will adapt your training for your goals or events.

We will ensure that you keep progressing training at an appropriate pace, taking into consideration both the time off and your future goals. In other words, we’ll keep you on track.

We don’t currently offer this, however, if you don’t fee like you don’t need another rest week shortly after, you can use TrainNow to get personalized workout reccommendations during that week.

Let me know if you have any questions about TrainNow! Or anything else, of course :slight_smile: .

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Thanks for the reply Sarah

Like I said in my OP

And using the Annotations / TR option, will still leave the next rest week in 2 or 4 weeks (depending on if I pull or push the reset week), I’m not convinced that this will

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I agree Dark Matter

I am in a similar position right now. The week just passed was the last week of my base phase but unfortunately, due to work travel and then a nasty stomach bug, my last proper workout was Saturday (4 hr ride) and then I had a recovery cruise in the sunshine for 45 minutes with a friend on the Sunday before travelling. Got sick Tuesday evening with what I think was food poisoning and had already missed my workout that day as the work just ran right over. Wednesday and Thursday I was suffering fighting the infection and couldn’t eat, so Friday, although feeling much better, I rested to ensure I was definitely fixing up.

I’ve removed the Threshold workout the system had in for me today (Saturday) as I want to test my health before hitting anything too hard.

Therefore I have lost an entire week of training and haven’t done an interval session since Friday 28th Feb.

My next training week is a recovery week that doesn’t have anything scheduled until 12th March.

My next interval session is a VO2 max session on the 19th March! On the build week.

So if I just follow the plan, I don’t see how it is going to keep me on track. I either have the option of
a) adding in interval workouts during the scheduled recovery week - but then that will give me a block of four weeks on the build phase and I know that I definitely fair better with a 3 week block.

or

b) I don’t do any intervals, stay with the plan and hope it keeps me on track. But that would mean I won’t have done an interval session between Friday 28th March and Wednesday 19th February. I wouldn’t actually worry about it if I didn’t have an event at the end of May I am already struggling to be fit enough for.

I genuinely don’t see how TR will keep me on track unless I spend a lot of time shuffling workouts around.

If I could just move the rest week/build block forward a few days or so then that would sort everything easily.

As it is, I will probably see how I feel today and next week and chuck 2 x interval sessions and long ride in the existing recovery week if I am indeed recovered enough, then hope I make it through a four week training block.

The other thing I find interesting is that the system recognizes I have been sick (I used the annotation) and adapted the calendar by deleting the workout that day, but it hasn’t put in any kind of gentle ‘back to training’ workout in, but rather left in a threshold work out. Maybe it’s just me, but I thought general consensus was to test the body with a gentle ride before taking on an interval workout again.

So to say the system will keep someone on track is a bit of a stretch.

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@JoPage Gosh, I’m sorry you caught a nasty stomach bug :cry:. That sounds horrible. You were absolutely right to hold off on intensity until you’re sure that you are back on your feet :mending_heart:.

In your case, I actually think the recovery week is well timed. I always reccommend a gradual return after sickness, especially if your ilness has left you feeling depleted and dehydrated. I know that you feel the pressure to make up for lost time/ workouts, but you are at great risk of burrying yourself in a hole if you return to intense training too soon after illness.

My suggestion:

  • Take the first workout of your recovery week very easy, as prescribed. Then evaluate how you feel.
  • If you’re sure that you are back to full health, you can use TrainNow to get an AI reccommended Workout based on your current fitness level and recent training history.
  • TrainNow is an excellent option in this scenario because it ensures that you are still doing productive, structured training that is personalized to your fitness level.
  • If you don’t quite feel back to your usual self, take the full recovery week. I know it can feel unsettling to push intensity off for another week, but in this case, it will be best for your progress over the long run.
    -Patience during this time is key :key:.
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Hey @DarkMatter, have you tried TrainNow before?

It provides intelligently recommended workouts tailored to your current fitness levels and recent training history, allowing you to train effectively without the need to manually adjust your training plan. ​

This approach ensures you maintain fitness and progress with productive and structured training, even when life throws curveballs that disrupt your planned training schedule.​

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Hi @SarahLaverty Yes I know about TrainNow

I feel you are answering a differnt question, I’ve got a couple of big events this year, with the second 5 dayer at the end of August, In March I need to move the rest week by one week for a medical reason, which will not affect my recovery but will mean that I cannot do any hard or long efforts for a few days, a perfect recovery week

I can move the rest week by hand,or using TranNow, but that will lead to a 4 week block after it, ok I move that using train now, and the one after that ? and the one after that ? all the way to September ? In order to keep the 3 week 1 week off

OK, but I have specific things that I am training for, Train now doesn’t take these thinks into account does it ? Nor does it “phase” my training. It might save me from manually adjusting my plan, but my plan still needs adjust.

The question is simple, a specific week needs to be a rest week, the next 6 months of my training plan needs to take this into account, how do I achieve this ?

Are we saying that TimeOff has no effect on the training plan, and marking a week as Time Off is basically the same “Clear week”, it’s just a note as to “I’ve cleared this week for this reason”

I feel you are missing the point that is being made here as well @JoPage is saying that they have taken a rest week, and the plan has another rest week lined up after that, that can use the train now to get training for that period (or just look next week and replicate that) but if they follow the plan that is laid out in the calender, in 4 weeks time (1 rest week that is now a a train now week + 3 weeks of training) they will be burned out …

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Yup, I wish this was possible as well. I’m also confused what “Trainnow” is supposed to be doing. If trainnow is giving “personalized recommendations during that week,” shouldn’t the Trainnow workout during a rest week be…a restful workout?

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Yes, thank you @DarkMatter. That is exactly the point I was making.

As it is, I didn’t know what to do. The TrainNow workouts being recommended were like VO2 max stuff of 9.6 or something really random, and I wasn’t really ready to be going that hard, especially when I am coming into the build block next week and the first VO2 max workout prescribed is a 2.5 PL.

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Hey @JoPage, I’d like to get you to a spot where you feel like you’ll be on track.

I totally hear your concerns about maintaining the 3:1 work-to-recovery ratio so that you’re always striking the optimal balance between stress and rest. Right now, there isn’t a way to automatically redistribute weeks within the plan, but TrainerRoad’s Fatigue Detection will ensure you don’t burn out—even if there’s a slight deviation from this ratio for about a month.

I think it’s helpful to view the goal of this week as maintaining fitness and keeping training on track so you can move forward consistently and stay strong for the following few weeks of intense training.

As mentioned, we’ve found that adding a couple of TrainNow workouts during the recovery week following a rest week can be a great way to maintain fitness while keeping you on track.

The difference here is that TrainNow recommendations are based on current progression levels. Your periodized training plan anticipates future changes in FTP and Progression levels. As you progress through your training plan, those workotus will adapt accordingly.

If you choose to do TrainNow workouts during this week, I’d suggest manually selecting an Endurance or low-intensity Climbing workout instead of the higher-intensity recommendations. These will help maintain fitness without adding too much fatigue before your next training block.

Another option is to swap the workouts from your Time Off week with those in your recovery week**—though that would slightly throw off the 3:1 ratio.

Shoot me a DM if you’d like help finding the best approach!