I don’t really know what to tell you based on that feedback. The workouts were progressively harder each week, going up in Progression Level, wattage was higher than I’ve done before.
I followed the plan, as prescribed by TR. I have no reason to expect improving? You’re going to have to give more info about what you mean? Because based on your comment, the TR plans don’t work anymore.
The pictures are reversed by the way. You have to look at the week number.
@belciugo you have done a lot of good work! My first advice is this: don’t wait for AI FTP detection to feel good about your hard work. You should feel good about it right now without regard to what FTP detection tells you. You’re doing great.
We don’t always understand all the vagaries of TR AI FTP detection. It’s a golem made of silicon and numbers and as good as it is it lacks one thing you have: a warrior spirit. And right now you’re warrior spirit is trying to spit the bit and tell you you’re better than that.
I agree. You are better than that, but let’s arbitrate and try to split the difference in a rational way. Honestly, I think you should consider clicking that ‘+’ button four times and see how the workout feels for you. AI, drop the reins…warrior spirit, have your head. See how the week feels & you can always dial it back if you feel like it’s too much.
Just remember that after every recovery week the next three weeks will probably build. So what feels pretty good in the first week may too much in the third week. That third week is when you’ll know if you’re really up for it. But I think you probably are.
Love the message. Thanks Brennus.
Week TSS
12 251
13 360
14 329 ?
15 379
16 248 ??
17 387
18 392
19 406
20 87 ???
So looking at the weeks in the intended order it looks less bad 
But try to be more consistent. If you drop by 80% from one week to another (looking at tss here as it’s the best metric provided) that’s massive.
Some enablers of endurance fitness scale up and unfortunately also down rapidly depending on training effort, e.g. mitochondria.
Didn’t think I’d have to explain that TR prescribes recovery weeks every 3 weeks 
or that I posted that data on a Friday before my weekend workouts on a recovery week so ye it’s shows 87 TSS. Not trying to being condescending, it just what it is.
Literally I only missed one workout. Week 14 where I had to substitute a 2 hour workout on Saturday for a one hour endurance before a weekend away. And I still did my 2hr endurance that Sunday.
Sorry for sounds rude but if you’re gonna be telling people to do better and be more consistent when they only thing they did was substitute a SS for an endurance ride one… maybe you’re right but that would also mean the AI is wrong so which one is it?
It looks like you did a 4 week Build and 4 week Specialty? When did the FTP adjustments you’re referencing happen? FTP typically does not increase in Specialty as you are just honing the fitness you’ve built up to.
The +2 was after the build which I turned down since it was too close and I bump my workouts 1/2% anyways. And the drop was after the first 4 weeks of specialty. Maybe it doesn’t increase but it sure shouldn’t drop?
So your FTP, as estimated by AI, dropped 1.5% over a 4 week period that isn’t intended to increase your FTP? Personally, I’d call it within the margin of error and move on to the next phase.
Fair enough.
Seems perfect from a progression standpoint.
@belciugo I would wait until @Caro.Gomez-Villafane gets back to you.
Probably it will be nothing to worry about, but let’s wait and see what she’ll have to say.
That’s the plan!
It’s the same for me. It’s quite obvious that the algorithm only takes into account training associated with their prescribed workouts. Even if I complete an extraordinary workout outdoors, TR completely ignores it. Additionally, for the past year, my training load has been consistently much higher than what TR prescribes, yet it still marks my weekend training as red and yellow. Shouldn’t the algorithm recognize by now that I train more than expected?
You don’t have to explain anything. You wondered why you are improving less than what you hoped for and I show you a potential answer in your own data which you shared.
Progressive overload is the foundation of performance increase. It doesn’t matter why you missed your training or who prescribed you what. If you want to become better, you have to do more every week. If you do more one week and less the next, when maybe you are getting away with it. But it doesn’t look like that, does it?
What he shared shows progressive overload. Three weeks ramping then one rest. I think maybe because he started with a rest week it threw you off.
I see that, but it obviousely doesn’t help him. So the first thing based on what he shared would be to improve consistency and keep improving. Instead two steps forward, one step back.
Why do you keep saying this? I missed one workout in 9 weeks. How much more consistent can I be?
You’re adding zero to this conversation. You’re just saying do better. I followed every single workout prescribed by the platform. I literally have progressive overload. Are you saying that Trainer Road doesn’t work?
I wonder about the effect of rejecting an AIFTP detection result.
In OP @belciugo says “Last detection was 290 (from 288) and I rejected it…”
Could that rejection play some part in the outcome of the next AIFTP detection?
Perhaps 