Reserved on 14.04, just got the email to order them. If the experience of the rest of the people in this thread hold they should arrive early next week 
Just received my email link to order them…gonna let the opportunity pass this time.
arrived today, installed today, ride tomorrow. will report back
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Are you guys using a torque wrench to install them?
No
I did. Just to be safe. It turned out that my usual tightness- firmly tight but not a gorilla tightness- was right in the acceptable range.
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FWIW DC Rainmaker says do this, then do a few sprints, then calibrate. A couple hard efforts should effectively set the torque to the desired range.
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Bit disappointed by this. I only seen it after they arrived. I probably don’t do as big jumps / drops as i think i do, but I would like to. How can these be considered MTB pedals!?!?
The Tech Specs states: Bike types: MTB XC, CX, gravel.
XC bikes and even most trail bikes upto 140mm travel are sold as Category 3.
To move up to Category 4 rating, you need to design for drops up-to 120cm or 1.2m. This is a big “jump” up in loads from Category 3
To get the space in spindle for the electronics I’m not sure how much they have had to bore it out, reducing its strength while also having to protect the internals from too much bending.
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Thanks @Niv24 - Well i only have Epic Evo 120mm… I feel like i do greater than 60cm jumps and drops all day, but I’m sure video evidence shows otherwise. I think I’m too old to get to 1.2m…
Sounds like a match.
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Thanks for sharing this. While it’s true that XC doesn’t mean huge jumps, I agree that 24” is a pretty short drop by modern XC racing standards. Definitely something to consider before buying. Having said that, I’ve never encountered an issue hitting larger drops or doing tabletops with my road Assioma/Xpedo hack, so in a sense this is just legalese and we all know we accept the risk of breakage once we start jumping.
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It guess that’s just to cover their asses. The canyon Lux WC is rated 3, and if you watch the last two XC races there were plenty more jumps higher than 60cm.
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I would assume the 24” jump rating would refer to a worst case, e.g. low speed drop to flat on asphalt with a hardtail and a heavy rider. Real world trails with sloped landings and suspended bikes reduce the forces of drops quite a bit. I’d also guess there’s some ass-covering here.
Pretty sure Garmin PM pedals carry the same rating, and despite years of heavy use by many riders I’m not award of a rash of broken spindles. FWIW LOOK’s new PM pedals are rated to cat 4.
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I was curious so tried to figure out what testing standards pedals actually adhere to.
As best I can find, ISO standards do not differentiate between categories, with the exception of youth vs. adult. Standard tests include ~350lb static load on the pedal for 5 min., 15kg striker dropped on pedal from 40cm height, and 100,000 revolutions of the pedal spindle with a 90kg load on the pedal.
My guess (only a guess) is that the category rating is intended as a general usage guide, not reflective of specific strength standards. My take would be it means “not intended for DH/park/hard Enduro riding.” Probably mainly to give them an out to deny warranty if someone has very obviously exceeded expected use cases.
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So I shouldn’t do any jumps with my gravel bike ? Then again how would they find out if I was? I could say I jumped off a curb and yes I can jump jumps with a gravel bike.
I bet they will be as well rated officially as most xc bikes and xc intended equipment.
And I bet if you’re a good rider, then they will take more than 61cm. On the other hand if you abuse kit, and regularly launch and land it badly over 61cm you’ll likely break these but you’d also break Garmin Rally’s and probably any other xc pedal.
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I was being sarcastic, it’s like any Bike part where they say you shouldn’t do XYZ. How are they really going to prove how the pedals broke? I don’t think they can, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
They seem very solid and up there with my XTR pedals, only time will tell.
What I really wonder is what is the Life expectancy of the battery in years of use or hours of use? Then do we buy new spindles?
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Fwiw, when I chatted with Favero, the emphasized that they tested to that ISO spec. In a scenario that went beyond that, the concerns were primarily around spindle accuracy, not breakability.
Obviously, from a liability/etc standpoint, they’re holding to the ISO spec and limits there.
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That’s good to know, thanks for the extra insight.