I would like to use AI FTP, however I do all of my workouts using TrainingPeaks Virtual and match them afterwards. AI FTP requires 10 workouts using the TR workout player. After that all is good and it will continue to update afterwards.
My question is, what is the fastest way to get AI FTP auto-calculating? Can I queue up a bunch of small workouts? Can I load workouts up but skip the intervals?
I was in the same about a month ago when I signed up for TR after taking about 6 years off from it. Those short workouts donât seem to count or factor into anything. So, yeah, donât waste your time with those short workouts. I tried doing 5 five minute ones and TR acted like they were non existent.
I started taking my 90 minute workouts and splitting them into 30 minute workouts. That seemed to work, though TR didnât count the last 30 minute workout but did take my last 60-minute SS session.
That being the case, I am disappointed that the official support page for AIFTP is misleading
The page states
âIn order for AI FTP Detection to have enough data to accurately detect your FTP, you need a minimum of 10 completed TrainerRoad indoor workouts . If you havenât completed enough workouts, donât stressâyouâll see how many more you need when you click the button to use the feature. Once youâve completed these 10 workouts, AI FTP Detection will analyze and incorporate all indoor and outdoor rides with power data, whether or not theyâre TrainerRoad workouts.â
As you can see, there is no mention of any minimum workout duration, or any other condition.
It would be good if a TR staffer clarified if possible and also for the official support page to be amended to properly set out the requirements.
It sounds like completing any TrainerRoad workout that isnât an FTP assessment or âfreerideâ of sorts should count towards the 10 workout requirements.
@gloscherrybomb maybe those few sub-5 minute workouts are classified differently which is why they arenât counting. You might have to step it up to the 15-minuters.
Question for behind the hood on the 10 rides bit. If you just feed the 10 rides with âbogusishâ rides like the intro one 10 times, how would that ever generate a reliable ftp? If its using additional rides as well for the calculation then why the heck do you need 10 TR rides?
If I were you, Id just create 10 custom workouts then match them to past rides.
Im not subbed so I cant test it but I think a shortcut to this could be to create the workout in trainingpeaks scheduled for tomorrow. Sync TR/TP then I think you can find that workout in the library for you to match against a past ride.
Matching doesnât work. All my workouts are TrainerRoad workouts, to the letter, matched to the prescribed workout once uploaded. These donât count.
Iâll try a 15 minute one in the player, by the wink above it sounds like that may well be the threshold.
I donât know official reasoning but I am quite sure AI FTP needs N (=10) good/real workouts to classify athlete into some internal profile bucket so it can start estimating how athlete progresses with any kind of future work that probably doesnât need to be TR workout after that.