AI FTP detection - not counting workouts?

AI FTP detection says that it requires 10 workouts, but I have only done 1. I need to do another 9.

However, I have done 5 workouts that have improved my progression levels.

All of the workouts I have done have been on TPV, and matched to the scheduled workout.

Why is only 1 of the 5 counting for FTP detection? Is this a bug?

“In order for AI FTP Detection to have enough data to accurately detect your FTP, you need a minimum of 10 completed TrainerRoad indoor workouts .”

from https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4415864080155-How-to-Use-AI-FTP-Detection

My reading of that is that the TPV workouts don’t count, even though they have been matched to the scheduled workout.

A TR staffer might confirm / correct that

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The odd thing about that is that 1 of the 5 seemingly has counted…

That is odd.

Have you been in touch with TR support about it?

Did you have a scheduled TR workout on your calendar that got associated with your TPV workout? There must be some connection to a TR workout for them to “count” in this instance.

Hey @gloscherrybomb :slight_smile:

@ivegotabike info is correct. You need 10 Indoor TR Workouts to unlock it.

It looks like the one workout counting is Anai Mudi, which you completed on 3/22/2024.

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Oh blimey, a long time ago, when I was last on TR.

That’s a shame as I don’t think I’ll ever use the player, so won’t be able to use AI FTP detection.

@mcneese.chad the 5 workouts I have done since returning are associated, so they work for progression levels etc.

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You reference using TPV for your workouts, so you are doing the work inside. If you want to gain access to AI FTPD, why not simply bite the bullet and run the needed workouts in the TR app until the 10 workout requirement is met?

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Yes I suppose I could bite the bullet. I don’t really like biting bullets though. I’d rather it just work.

Until/if they change how ai ftp detection works you don’t have any other options.

TR says workout levels v2 is being worked on and that might allow them to do ftp detection on outdoor workouts. Or it might not.

Dual record on TPV and TR?

The easier workaround for me is to forget about AI FTP and use the intervals.icu value. Hopefully it will be fixed with proper outdoor workout support.