I recently started Trainerroad after being gifted a free Zwifthub. I’ve been really enjoying it but the discomfort and numbness that I encounter is making it tough to get through workouts without stopping multiple times. Since I got the trainer for free, I decided to invest in the Inside Ride E-Flex Plus plaftorm, which gives you nice side to side, and for and aft movement, similar to a rocker plate but with a smaller footprint. It feels so nice and very similar to outdoors, and has taken away 90% of my discomfort. It’s an awesome product.
However, I’ve noticed that ever since I’ve had this, i’ve been really struggling to get through workouts I would have no problem doing a week or so ago. I’m mainly doing Sweet Spot stuff right now, and i’m having trouble completing workouts without lowering intensity. Today I failed during Bondcliff -3, which was a “product” SS workout. Being at 80-90% of FTP is such a struggle all of a sudden.
Do you think this has anything to do with the new training platform? Or are the workouts just getting harder?
- I have it in the middle, so not too much but not too little, feels good
- Not sure what you mean here - but both movements feel good, maybe a bit too much for and aft
- I feel like i’m leaning more to the right, and i find myself overcompensating to stay level. I’ve taken a level to everything and it’s all flat - it must be my natural position
- Used it for about 3 weeks before adding E-Flex, and have done 4 rides so far on the E-Flex.
- I don’t believe I changed anything pedaling wise, at least nothing noticable
I’m wondering if I’m using more body strength to keep myself balanced and its taking away from my power output…Or maybe it’ll just take some time to get used to it.
I would consider getting another trainer. I think all the rock n roll won’t help you at all.
TR talks about trainers on one of their recent Ask a cycling coach videos.
Well worth a listen
Why? I’ve got a Kickr with E-Flex and it was the final part of the solution to close the gap between power output indoors and outdoors.
Can you expand on this? Like a different brand of smart trainer? Not sure i’m following…
Interesting. I do love the product. Just confused about my performance on it after a few rides. How long did it take you to get used to it?
Sometimes I have trouble completing workouts and nothing has changed with my bike or trainer setup. I’m confused why you think its the E-Flex. As they say, s**t happens. The only thing I had to learn was getting on and off the bike. The actual time on the trainer was more comfortable and almost immediately I started hitting similar numbers on short end-of-ride sprints.
I must admit, some years ago I had a rock n roll trainer and absolutely hated it.
I got rollers for the real feel which is more realistic because you can crash.
I still think it wouldn’t be a bad idea for them (OP) to try a fixed trainer because then they’re not left wondering if the flex is the right one.
lets look at the clues:
- recently started TR
- struggling to complete workouts with hard start SS efforts.
- admits under fuelling before the workout.
- admits recent fatigue.
- new equipment gets the blame?
do the basics, starting with fuel. 1 hour with 90 grams carbs starting at 1 min in. the 90 grams will increase blood glucose levels for the brain, help fuel the work and aid recovery, thus reducing fatigue.
I’m not blaming it per say, it’s just a pretty major setup change so I think it is fair to wonder if it’s affecting performance, given I haven’t “failed”, or had to lower the % on a workout since I got this. Personally, I think my FTP is set too high and these 12-minute SS internals are just too much for me at my current level. I’m going to do another ramp test tomorrow because the AI FTP i think is too high.
I took a look at your Calendar, and I don’t think your FTP is set too high or your Ride E-Flex Plus platform is to blame . Rather, I think you may have progressed yourself into higher workout Difficulty Levels too fast.
For example, you went from a SS 2.2 to a SS 3.7 and then from a Threshold 1.7 to 2.5.
You are also going into your 5th week of interval training with no recovery, so I’m not surprised with the mix of the two; you are having a hard time completing the workouts.
Since I don’t see you’re following a plan when you choose workouts, what process/logic are you using? That way, I can understand a little bit better what you’re after and suggest a solution
I’m not following a plan yet, I’m just selecting one of the “TrainNow” workouts depending on how I feel that day. 90% of the time i’m choosing Sweet Spot though.
I never actually did a proper FTP test, when I started TR I just input one that I was using on Peloton (255). I used that for a few weeks, then lowered it to 245. Then after a few more rides, the TR AI FTP detection bumped me back up to 253.
I think you are right that my SS PL is getting too high and it’s recommending workouts i’m not ready for. How can I adapt to this?
I see you just applied a training Base Phase! This is great, as Adaptive Training will recommend future workouts based on your workout performance as well as give you a proper Recovery Week.
Note: you can continue manually adding training phases as you see them fit, or you could build a more long-term training plan with Plan Builder. If you have any events in mind, this is a great tool since it will create a training plan leading up to your main event. If you don’t have an event, that’s OK too