Initially it seems bad, but the snippets are given without context. Coach Chad had a string of injuries and is planning a move that takes time and energy away from training. Without knowing the context, I think it is very hard to judge why he couldn’t get through the training block.
I happily live my life with someone who tells me that all the time. Must surely not be that bad indeed.
Nicely said.
Thanks for all the constructive debate in the forum.
As far as the video goes, we don’t agree with the interpretation of the studies and how TrainerRoad’s offering was represented. We’re going to cover all of this in-depth in the podcast next Thursday (not this Thursday, but the Thursday after that).
You better hold onto your deep dive hats.
Thanks for pointing out this. My plan is to gradually adopt more volume (endurance ride) into TR plan.
It means that there is something causing incompatibility between you and that particular plan.
Concur with this. I think this post increases my will to make a change, but I will keep caution and pay attention to my journey.
Looking forward your arguments next Thrusday. It’s really a chance for TR users to improve ourself as better cyclist.
I’ve been married to a publicist for over 10 years now. Call me more cynical than before that in regards to all the crazy shit that goes on behind the scenes.
Dylan’s vid was mediocre. I didn’t see anything that was overly controversial mentioned.
I have two questions in regards to this discussion.
- Does a “Polarised” training plan look like nearly every Specialty block listed in the TR catalogue?
- Do any of the studies mention what people are doing outside of cycling training?
Awesome, can’t wait. By the way, does the cake next to your avatar mean today is your birthday? In that case, Happy Birthday, Nate!
I think I’m 39 in Australia but not in Reno yet .
Last b-day… better make this year count
Well, I’m in Japan, so that’s close enough! Congrats!
PS I’m turning 40 in 5 days. Imagine how I must feel!
The temp here feels like 39c too!
Polarize training adopted a core concept of how to distribute the
training load. It adopted the magic ratio, i.e., 80/20 principle. Most
of your training should be at lower intensity. Only 20% of your
training load is located at high training zone.
I get the 80/20 bit.
It’s Iike what happens when you hit the 8 weeks of Specialty in the TR plans? No?
Admittedly, the plans that I looked at had a SS workout thrown in there as well. Shock, horror.
I asked the question because it seems nonsensical to use a 9 week study with highly trained athletes that are slightly detrained to show that a reduction in training load, while maintaining high output ability, shows anything more than a fresh athlete.
Maybe I’m miles off the mark. I don’t know. This thread is a shocker
There’s many resources in this forum you can study about it. The point is that it takes time. The ongoing debate is somehow over a very tricky zone. It’s natural to have tons of different opinions with strong scientific evidence from both sides. I learn tons of things from this health discussion, but the most important thing for me is to adopt what I learn, try this and that, document them down, execute the plan, review different approaches, and enjoy.
Nah. TR Speciality plans are all about lower volume while maintaining intensity, with the idea of tapering / peaking before a target event.
Seiler’s Polarised training model involves spending the vast majority of your training time (think 80 or 90%) below LT1, and the remaining time above LT2. Without going down the rabbit hole of sessions vs Time-in-Zone, LT1 vs VT1, LT2 vs FTP etc… roughly this would mean spending the overwhelming majority of your training time in, for a Coggan 5-Zone model, Z1-Z2… maybe even low Z3 for some people. The rest of the time would be above FTP.
I can’t see any TR Speciality that come anywhere close to that sort of TiZ or session intensity distribution. Maybe full-distance triathlon? But seems to lack the over-FTP stuff.
PS Please … no one take this as an opinion or judgement call on either TR speciality or polarised… I have zero skin in either game.
Cake? Did someone say cake?
That’s why we cycle right?
Dear all:
I find myself lost in this ongoing debate. I believe there is so much
thing that TR users could learn from. I try to summary a wiki-style
like the page here:
This my preparation for next TR Thursday’s lecture.
Feel free to add questions. Or the structure of the note. I think TR
users could benefit from more denser information.
I will continue to collect questions.
Thanks to all of you.
I’m Irish. So maybe that’s my problem.
Love the Greeks, though🤘
I always appreciate a good lecture from someone smarter and wiser than me.
Thanks for all your help, man. I’m grateful.
And coffee!