Who said the post was wrong? It’s just irrelevant to the discussion. Words have meaning, the meaning changes as decades and centuries pass. The phrase “your boy” is also used frequently by younger people but someone can always point out that boy has racist connotations when used in an unrelated manner
I had no idea that grandfathered had that history, I appreciate the knowledge, but my vocabulary isn’t going to change because some someone on a forum posted about it. The term is widely used by tons of people
The backbone of TrainerRoad is their plans. Screwing that part up would put them out of business rather quickly. So why wouldn’t they try to make them as sound as possible?
It is often pointed out in this thread that you can also train according to POL using Trainerroad if you put together your own training plan. I was wondering about the value proposition of Trainerroad when I have to create my own training plan.
I was specifically trying not to make anyone feel weird for using it, I hope it wasn’t taken poorly by anyone! Just thought some folks would like to know the etymology and be so informed for the future.
Take the traditional base plans and replace one endurance (and for some plan progressions, sweetspot) session with VO2 max. Copy the VO2 progression from any base or build plan. Boom polarized.
Yes. You put the information and people are free to chose whatever they feel like doing. Some (like me) will try to phase it out. Other will argue that’s is just a word that outgrow the original intent. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
I’ve been training and racing now for over 20 years. Have had the opportunity to work some great coaches over these years and many years self coached. I have also used TR’s plans. How do you blame TR for overtraining, etc on a cookie / cutter program for the masses? It is “you” that chooses between the low, mid or high plan. These are what a $15 mo. plan? You are not getting “coached” w/these you are just following a plan. If you don’t have the experience or insight into understanding when things are going wrong, then get a coach. In regards to the polarized training I know TR seems to spout that you need to be doing pro volume for this, which is not true as well. I follow a lot w/Tim Cusick at WKO5 he is also talking quite a bit about polarized training. I just think whether its TR or any other company selling a generic training program for the masses just understand what you are getting and what you are not getting.
I don’t understand why TR doesn’t offer a POL plan out-of-the-box. I would like to be able to choose a POL plan and not put it together myself because I don’t have the know-how. If there is no POL plan in TR, I am considering paying the subscription fee to someone other than TR (e.g. you) to create one for me.
I mean how easy would it be to define a pol plan. I mean all they would have to do is copy the VO2 progression from SSBMV and SPB. Add 2 easier shorter endurance workouts to it and finish it off by adding 2 longer endurance workouts.
It’s seems like they don’t believe in the polarized philosophy. I mean Nate even stated on one of the latest podcasts that he knows no one on elite level who trains that way. He ridiculed the matter even more by asking Keegan about it.
To me it only gives him and the team more credit. They believe in what they do and they stick with it.
