I haven’t watched DJs video, but I’m generally a fan of his content. Personally, I’ve never burned out from TRs intensity on LV plans and I only have 3-ish days a week to train due to work and family commitments. I can do more hours per day during the summer but not more days on the bike. if you have the ability to train more hours per week using a coach and polarized approach can do wonders for your aerobic base and durability due to limiting the stress on your body. For people like me with limited time its really not an option.
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All you have provided to the discussion is training distributions of elite athletes. What you fail to understand is what makes them elite athletes in the first place. Hint: it has to do with the research I pointed you at. Another hint: volume isn’t the reason they are excelling in their sportive.
So much for dogma and disputing science. Now back to your lbs guy and his training recommendations. 
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Yes … there is a filter for that on the /totals page and for custom plots on the /fitness page.
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Hope its clear this really is sarcasm…
Wow …if I ride more I can get my decrepit 60 year old body up to ride constantly at 300 watts and achieve 5 w/kg…That is awesome. I knew I wasnt reaching far enough.
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I think he basically says “It’s complicated,” both the training and weight loss. I do think he strikes a good balance and says while I think Dylan had some points, it’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. IIRC he pointed out one study, the threshold-only group they took away all high-intensity work so they might have de-trained.
Funny, I was listening to the TR podcast when they had Pro-cyclist Keegan on and Chad basically comes down and says there are many different ways to skin a cat and seemed to address a lot of the back and forth on polarized vs. non-polarized.
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Or alternatively, the research of Seiler and others. But that is beyond you, as it doesn’t fit in with your preconceptions.
You appear to be suggesting that people with inferior genetics will do better on less work than the best. Good luck with that line of logic.
No one has argued that good genetics aren’t a prerequisite. They are necessary, but not sufficient. To be as good as you can be, volume is a prerequisite, and that has been demonstrated in study after study and generation after generation of cyclists. But, of course, you know better 
Enjoy the thread.
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If you would have read the studies, you would know that it appears to be critical to have good genetics.
Again, if you would have read what I had written, you would have realized that I only have said, that the science isn’t just out there. We don’t know which training principle is best. Neither do we know which volume.
Though what we know is that certain studies out there on elite athletes perhaps should be considered with a grain of salt. Mostly because we know that these athletes have genetic advantages. Some for instance sake are related to recovery and muscle composition. Hence it doesn’t make sense to blindly prescribe average joes with elite athletes training volumes.
Which leads us to the question “what is ideal for the general population”. Again, something we don’t know yet.
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This opens a whole can of worms that could revive the things have to change thread. A lot of discourse we commonly use has, shall we say, questionable origins.
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Speaking of SST, here’s a blog post by someone who doesn’t understand physiology.
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I would say you are absolutely correct. I had no idea.
I would say the modern day usage has zero do to with how the term originally came about, and not everyone is privy to the information you provided.
I don’t necessarily agree with calling out everything that may have originated from a less than ideal manner. Things are adapted and repurposed all the time without little thought to its origins. While I may see a different term to use from now on knowing this information, I don’t think anyone should take offense to others using it in an innocent manner. JMO
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It’s just the natural evolution of our brave new outrage culture - always something to admonish others for. I do appreciate the nugget of knowledge, however, and will assimilate that appropriately.
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Kudos to DJ for making this the top thread in the forum 
Regardless: my FTP from summer 2020 (314) came down to 291 during winter time. After six weeks of TR Sweet Spot Base 1, my FTP went up again to 306 (4,3W/kg currently). That’s a 5% gain in 6 weeks time. I’ll take that and TR will keep getting my money. For the time being, that is… 
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But would you add it to your cv?
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Yes, I am no fan of cancel culture. If you erase/rewrite history you cannot learn from your mistakes are are then bound to repeat them.
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finally something useful in the thread (that I’ve continued to read regardless of the usefulness of the info)!!!
… and you still got replies saying you’re wrong!
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took only 1300 posts I did not expect to learn anything from this thread, but now I did. Kudos for that
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Sarcasm detected.
Cos you know I’m all about that bass, bout that bass, no sweet spot
I wouldn’t say cult alert, though I heartily disagree with the notion that TR knows someones body better than themselves.
I think I understand where the poster comes from - him being someone who doesn’t spend a lot of time trying to understand training modalities.
Still, I think it would be more appropriate to say, that TR knows more about general training science and average responses to stimuli (both in terms of results and compliance) than about an individual users body.
Any stock training plan is based on averages, and a fairly large amount of users will probably not fit into the average power zones. Also, there are many confounding factors such as genetics, age, sleep, alcohol, nutrition and work/familiy stress that cannot be accounted for in a general plan.
Let’s face it. In their excellent podcast, TR pretends to be scientific. As a consumer, one thinks to oneself: if the podcast is scientific, the training plans must also be sound. There is actually no evidence that the training plans are sound. I have fallen prey for a clever advertising trick.
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