I pretty much always give it a listen but depending on the topic I amy cut it short. I’ve found that I’m no longer interested in science deep dives or new supplements such bicarbs, beta alanine, ketones etc.
The ones that interest me the most are usually the race recaps or when there are new guests.
Man, y’all are tough to please sometimes
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The podcast was reportedly “unwatchable” prior to cutting filler words due to too many filler words.
The cuts can be a bit too harsh at times. We’ll keep trying to find the balance. ![]()
The cuts were definitely noticeable and distracting yesterday. I was just listening, not watching, and it had the effect of making it sound like everyone’s internet connection was cutting out.
My 2c for you (since you didn’t ask) is not to chase everyone’s feedback (including my own) … you’ll end up inadvertently creating a watered down product.
Quick anecdote: I once had the opportunity to sit in a business meeting with the lead car designer at Chrysler, and he said something that has always stuck with me.
He said:
“If you let a focus group design a car, then every car would be a Volvo. There would be no Ferrari, no Corvette, no Jeep.”
Build something excellent and the audience will arrive. I think you’re doing a great job, @Jonathan … encourage @IvyAudrain to call “BS” more (my new favorite thing!) and bring @Nate_Pearson on more. And if not Nate, there needs to be another agent of chaos lol …
Or take my actual advice, and don’t listen to me. Good luck🤘
I like to be an artist vs. a critic, and I’m not sure this post hit that mark … but hopefully there is something kind and encouraging in here.
I was listening to Tim Ferriss’ pod and he mentioned that he uses a tool called Descript to remove filler words, could be a cool solution
Listening to an old 2018 podcast and the flow of the conversation is so much better when they’re together and in person.
Agree.
@Jonathan you are constantly caught between a rock and a hard place trying to please everyone all the time.
Make the podcast that you would enjoy.
(Personally I think the resurfacing of @Nate_Pearson as a regular host will be great for the Pod, as you, Ivy, and Nate, have great chemistry.)
We’ve used a variety of tools, and this week was Descript ![]()
Listening to the podcast, I didn’t really notice anything. That being said, I do wonder how important the pauses/umms/filler words are for natural sounding speeching. What’s the trade off for something that sounds very slick but not natural?
Is that a facial hair reference?
Agree. The seeming focus on pro mountain bikers (vis a vis another comment about a certain MTB pro who seems to score a mention about every 10 minutes) and people with (to me) off the chart FTPs turns me off somewhat as an age grouper sitting at 2.5 W/kg on a good day. While the product undoubtedly benefits even 50 year old nuffies like me, and I still love and pay for it after all these years for that reason, the Podcast (which is how I discovered TR in the first place years ago and is clearly a major marketing strategy for the company) has, IMHO, lost its way a bit.
I would wonder what the average age is of TR’s subscribers is in 2023? I saw user-base data previously with data such as age and typical FTP- I wonder if that’s evolved? Of course Nate and team may have strategically decided to go after the gravel/MTB/cross crowd to expand their user base (which is fine - his company of course!)
I’ll keep tuning in and tuning out as needed- it’s damn hard to create content year after year and even if I never listened again I have gained a huge amount of understanding and enjoyment over the years from Jonathan and Chad and for this I am enormously thankful. However, pods like Oxygen Addict and Fast Talk seem more applicable and helpful to me these days.
Yeah but 50 year olds are boring. We have work, families, bike in the garage. We are terrible TV. ![]()
Are the podcasts still done on Zoom-style virtual meetings? I think for me that’s what kind of took the fun out of the discussions. There’s a certain cadence of hesitations and lack of energy to virtual meetings that’s just not natural feeling. When it was the original group all sat in a conference room drinking coffees and chatting, there was a more relaxed flow of the conversations even when there were dry topics.
Peak podcast was this. The quick clips were incredible too.
Also, this episode is funny, considering the prevailing opinion among some that TR isn’t on the z2 wagon. They were talking about this before ISM got popular!
This. Honestly I don’t know most of these domestic pros and don’t particularly enjoy listening to how they approach their races more than once or twice.
I’d love a mixture of OG crew sometimes, then some specialists on training topics (coaches, scientists), and maybe some meaningful updates on releases. I loved hearing from Matteo Jorgenson way back about the WorldTour experience since that was new!
Variety is key, and I’m not speaking about various US gravel racing and MTB pros ![]()
But it’s just my opinion, and it’s hard to please everyone ![]()
Watching a bit of that video posted above reminded me how much I used to love the podcast. I learned so much each week.
I think fundamentally they’ve gotten away from what the pod was, and was originally designed to be. Maybe that’s intentional, and the name just doesnt fit anymore.
It’s “Ask a cycling COACH.” Yet…the podcast is created it seems by professional riders, dedicated podcast creators, the marketing department, and IT people. It’s not meant to be an attack or anything…nothing wrong with that. But none of those fill the coach role.
I just listened on Spotify and it’s fine this way. It’s when you’re trying to watch the video that if feels like there’s a glitch in the matrix.
That video at 10:12. If people had only listened to chad they would have never experienced burnout. Plus many other hot takes about slowing down, easing off, and not doing fasted recovery rides.
It seems like the hardest thing to teach riders is recovery, rest, and it’s ok to skip a workout in favor of 30 minutes of recovery at 50% ftp.
People didn’t listen to them.
Totally agree. However…how does one reconcile that view of riding easy and often, with TR prescribing 4 days out of 5 with intense intervals, in mid volume base, for example?