Do we really need indoor specific nutrition?

I just saw SIS have brought out an indoor range of nutrition. I like a good marketing campaign as much as the next person, but do we really need a specific range?

Turbo Range

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It sounds like a marketing ploy, but who knows? Maybe they’re taking something into account that I’ve overlooked.

Well that really depends on how gullible you are.

Those prices :see_no_evil:

No.

Next! :joy:

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A modest 84% more expensive than their standard gels (for a pack of 30) :joy:

Err … no thanks.

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If you read the description it’s intended as a pre-workout. Do one while getting kitted up/starting pre-bike warmup then fuel normally after that. Body builders do it with pre-workout powders/drinks. So… maybe? :man_shrugging:

Right, so the menthol is supposed to guard against effects of heat. Wonder if sucking a couple of these ahead of a workout would have similar benefit

I mean, I think it could be an interesting area for sports nutrition companies to look into. There’s a few potential talking points- perhaps looking at outdoor vs indoor sweat rate and composition, a general tendency for indoor workouts to be shorter, higher-intensity efforts, and logistical factors such as not needing to be as portable. (I know i’m more likely to reach for the jellybeans etc over gels/liquid nutrition indoors simply because they’re way better tasting, and I don’t have to account for them being potentially more difficult to eat on the bike.)

I don’t think I need indoor specific nutrition for that kind of price tag, though :rofl:

I’m on the record as being cool with “indoor specific” products if they are well designed and meet a real need. That said I’m a bit skeptical about this as something a bit overblown. This is my n=1 experience but I’m done with Ssb2 HV and had some demanding workouts this week. All I do is have some coffee and about 100 calories extra and I can complete 1500kj rides without a problem I’m more concerned with environmental variables like fans and humidity which affect my rpe far more than nutrition does. So for now I’m skeptical (also I’m in the USA and I guess that line is for the UK)

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Indoor nutrition: you mean pizza?

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This concerns me, as everything I’ve understood so far is that you shouldn’t be shoving sugary stuff into your mouth until the workout is well under way, due to risk of creating an insulin spike. So I’ll be leaving that well alone.

Jury’s out on the menthol side of things. Especially as my current carb drink costs 20x less for each gram of carb than these products.

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I think a deep dive from Coach Chad is needed on this one!

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Most of this stuff is prepackaged sugar. One can easily make it themselves. SiS Turbo is:

Maltodextrin, Dextrose, Flavouring, Magnesium Citrate, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Lactate, Natural Menthol Flavouring (containing min. 20% menthol), Potassium Chloride, Sweetener (Sucralose).

I made my own drink mix today out of:

Dextrose
Sucrose
Salt
Baobab powder (citrus electrolyte)

It tastes fine. I take one bottle of this and another bottle of plain water and I alternate. I got 10 pounds of Dextrose for $30 on amazon. I never got around to buying maltodextrin but it’s $30 for 8 pounds. I could probably improve the taste some with some kind of berry or lemon powder. Anyway, it’s super cheap to make your own.

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Unless you’re diabetic that’s not a concern. You can’t go faster on processing glucose so you need to go longer by starting early.

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Definitely marketing. Seen the surge in people training indoors because of the whole COVID situation… I don’t buy it

No, it really isn’t.

I’m partial to a big plate of pancakes with loads of syrup on top.

Although this does seem to be a pretty gross marketing ploy, I’m open to learning about any way I can squeeze a bit more performance out. The only thing that’s new to me is the menthol, so perhaps that’s worth investigating if there’s any data to back up the claims.

Reminds me of Arsenal legend Patrick Vieira - he used to smear Vicks all over his shirt before games. It’s not an indoor training-specific example to be fair, but at least it might help me be less “mucus-y” on the bike, and if it also affects RPE…

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I’ll take a pass since the main benefit appears to be “improve the ability to tolerate such heat stress by reducing thermal perception through the refreshing and cooling sensations that menthol evokes.” My translation of their explanation is that it makes you think you are cooler but actually does nothing.