@Nate_Pearson This is longer than I intended. TL;DR version is that I think there’s a lot of value to some more programmed tests (like the ramp test, you test to failure on a progressively harder test until failure). Except these other tests would focus on other aspects of fitness beyond just a pow…

i think here is the right place, we talked some days ago: [image] Ramp Test, Automatic Adjustment to Rider Profile? TrainerRoad Software That makes some sense considering the association with CTL/ATL/TSB calculations (based on my limited knowledge). But it may well be som…

Many thanks for this recommendation! It would definitely be beneficial to more accurately measure athlete’s strengths and weaknesses, and tailor plans accordingly! From an organizational standpoint, there are likely a lot of moving pieces to create these different test rides (and proactively modify…

[image] huges84: Something that I think most athletes want to know is where their strengths and weaknesses are to figure out what to train if they want to play to their strengths or fix their weaknesses. Today people can look at their power curve and the 5s, 60s, 5min and FTP W/kg charts to see …

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I didn’t know about that workout, thanks. But Cogan’s chart is what I meant when I talked about limitations of the current method. It doesn’t let you know how well you do under dynamic conditions, like over-unders that may tell you a lot more about your ability to do well in a crit. Or the ability …

To get something useful together, the software doesn’t have to change. Chad could make the workouts and wrote a blog post about how to interpret the results and what training plan to pick to improve each area. Someone could add more context about why each tire of fitness matters in riding / racing c…

That first link about Coggan chart is what I am saying is inadequate. That chart can’t tell me how well I can suffer around and above FTP. It only tells me my short, one-off power ability. The second link did have a post that linked to a comment from Chad saying something is in the works, but was t…

Huges84: good proposal! The Kylie More / Empirical Cycling FTP test is a test to exhaustion, ridden at basically FTP. See the thread Testing protocols for details. So this works as a test of TTE at FTP. In the same manner, it is easy enough to create the workouts you are looking for. What’s needed…

Is there any evidence that people differ significantly in their ability to recover from varying power above/below FTP? If so, what is the unique mechanism?

[image] huges84: TR could make an OU workout that gets progressively harder and nobody can finish. Then I try and see how far into it I can get. You already have the tool — TR’s Workout Creator — to make any kind of workout/test you desire. :+1:t2:

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