I was cramping pretty badly in my abdomen during the last section of tunemah. Had to close my eyes and let the power fall where it may, that’s how bad I was feeling. Anyways, I finished at 100% TSS. I didn’t fail, but I’m worried how will I be able to complete McAdie +1. Could my FTP be too high? heart rate was 98% of max. Very uncomfortable.

I did Fang Mountain + 1 this morning. felt plenty hard to me.

I like to think the burn is my ftp getting higher…:+1:

Fang & Avalanche et al are more like Up-Down workouts than Over-Under workouts; ERG-inspired vs Classic…gradual vs instant…triangle vs square…zipline vs bungie…weaning vs cold turkey…peel the Band-Aid vs JUST RIP IT OFF!!!..etc. The perception of less pain is because the body (and brain) are given more time to adapt to the change. These days I do my O-U workouts at -50% intensity so I’m not really sure why I’m on this tread…:man_shrugging::face_with_monocle: Happy suffering! :grin:

I did Carpathian Peak +3 today, and I’d done it a year ago too. Two massively different experiences at virtually the same FTP then and now. I was cal restricting then and cracked it on last year. The whole thing felt like a massive brutal slog fest. Really nasty and I was dreading it today. Today was a peace of cake - the only bad part about it was knowing that I was on a long 20 minute effort and won’t be going anywhere for a while. I had been cal restricting this block but this week I had two days where I loaded up before the heard workouts, like 2 to 3k cal over like a pig. But the workouts the next day felt like I was a proper boss. DHL guy interrupted me on last block so I had an extra 30 sec rest but it was near the very end and felt fine anyway. Probably would have needed 25min or 30min intervals to really get into a mess. Sometimes it’s just about energy availability and not stamina. I felt like my Petit yesterday was worse as I’d cal restricted the day before. Wasn’t horrible but I had that slightly drained ‘don’t want to be on the trainer’ sensation slightly nagging away on each push of the pedals.

I’m so happy found this thread. I feel like less of a failure now. I’m new to Trainerroad road and made it through my first two over under workouts but couldn’t make it through McAdie last week. I have Palisade scheduled for tomorrow and am scared. After reading through this I’m going to make sure I have my fan on full blast and a ton more fluids.

[image] Fenderprj: made it through my first two over under workouts but couldn’t make it through McAdie last week Have a read and welcome to the club: [image] McAdie +1 - SSBI, How was it for you? Training Hi, I’ve done McAdie +1 last Saturday as one of the 5th week SSBI MV training. In short it is an 4x12-minute sets of over-under intervals alternating between 1 minute at 95% FTP and 2 minutes at 105% FTP with 6-minute recoveries fall between intervals. What a BEAST! Since the 2nd or 3rd interval of the 1st set I struggled to avoid collapsing. First the breathing was hard, really hard with my HR going over 170 (I’m 43 years old and 170 indoors looks to me like 190 outdoors) and in the 3rd and 4…

I haven’t done McAdie +1 yet, but have it on my calendar on a week from today (I’m doing SSB1 mid volume right now). I am little scared since I didn’t make it though the McAdie where the “under” was the 2 minutes instead of the “over”. I have Over- under today and am mentally planning for them. I just feel better knowing I am not the only one who struggles with them. I didn’t know I could adjust the percentage down, but hope I don’t have to result to that.

There are many Over-Under threads on the forum, I’d suggest giving them a read for both mental and physical tips & tricks to help you conquer these workouts. :+1:

Struggling with over-unders in plan Over-Unders. Love 'em. Hate 'em

Abdominal cramping is a sign of inadequate hyrdration. Be vigilant of the hydration and electrolytes. Good luck! -Hugh

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