Another AI training app: Athletica.ai

My Join subscription expired and from now on I’ll be using Athletica exclusively, in conjunction with my own personal workout library and Intervals.icu

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Thanks @oldandfast,

We know you call it like you see it and your feedback has and will continue to make us better.

I’d encourage you (and any other early adopters reading) to download the Athletica Workout Reserve App on Garmin and join in discussion with our scientists and developers on this thread. It was a bit buggy to begin but we think we’ve ironed most of them out. Fellow geeks out there will appreciate integrating into training and pacing feel.

Also highly recommend using the advanced settings to add the slider bar from short (S) to long (L) efforts. This gives the number better context across any effort — from the shortest high intensity sprint to the longest endurance ride.

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Latest integrations include:

Investment news.

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Excellent addition, they rate ye are releasing new features is class.

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I have never used your app but a gripe I have with eg cycling trackers on watches in general is the orientation, a quarter turn clockwise of the interface would make it so much more easier to read for cyclists ( or when driving)

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True @ArHu74. Will take that comment on board with thanks.

Best UX for cyclists fyi is using something like a 1040 or similar so the display is prominent.

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Take it up with Garmin. They control the orientation and placement I think.

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Thought this was pretty cool showing from our Garmin app developer in terms of how the slider bar can show if your WR is in the short (S) high-intensity range or long (L) lower or steady state range. Here showing depletion to 10% for L3a efforts.

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AI-coach also doing a pretty good job of interpreting the session and educating the user.

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Only using the mWR in on the website post ride so far, very accurate in terms of session assessment, both weekend rides of 4% and -3% were exactly how it felt when finished.

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As much as I want to try to use this app, so many issues still prevent me from doing it. The latest:

I’ve been away for 2 weeks, so trying to upload the activities….after many tries the app doesn’t update 3 past activities. I tried many ways. Clearly a bug.

It’s wasting too much of my time

EDIT: After 30 minutes it finally uploaded them on its own.

:face_exhaling:

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I started using Athletica since last week and noticed something similar.
Athletica is connected with both Strava and Garmin. TrainerRoad and Intervals.icu pick up the ride immediatly while it takes about 20 to 30 minutes to show up in Athletica.

No big deal for me since I usually check my ride stats an hour or more after the ride, but I can see why it could be annoying for some.

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Interesting, it could be the app or it could also be something on your end? I don’t know enough about how syncing works, but I also use athletica and once my workouts sync with Garmin I’ve never had a delay in the sync to athletica - I generally rate my effort/complete the survey prior to getting in the shower after my ride/run and then I’ll look at it again after getting out of the shower and workouts later in the week will often already be adjusted in that 5-10 minute period post workout. It syncs at the same time garmin does with strava, intervals.icu, and training peaks.

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Some more notes from my experience:

  1. Creating a session from scratch is not quick, so the best is to use a template.

  2. Form/Fitness differs from my interval.icu

  3. Given the constrains I have put in the schedule, it has me on a flat fitness trajectory from now to my event.

  4. Reiterate that it doesn’t have multi day events as targets, so training advice is wrong by definition.

  5. There are multiple tabs and windows that seem to be there just because and have 0 or limited use:

  • Roadmap
  • Everything under summaries is useless

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Athletica.ai finally applying some good adaptations that make sense for this week. Namely, adding a recovery ride after a rest day in preparation for a hard workout on Wed, all this due to a harder than prescribed load this past week.

:+1:t3:

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All working good here, except the app is missing some functionality to add sick days and get adaptations.

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Another issue: I increased my availability, and after 20min+, plan wasn’t adapted, will check again tomorrow.

If you’ve got more availability today just get on and do an extra session.

2 things to improve:

  1. If I have a block of 5 hours, create a workout within that time limit, instead of suggesting two separate workouts, one being just z2.

  2. The app needs to make it easier to change availability of days, as one offs.

In other words, try to copy and implement what Join does better than any other app.

Thanks @oldandfast.

  1. Yes - you’re in our beta group program (thank you) and that user-time-constraints feature has that known issue (throwing multiple sessions into the time allotment the user specifies). The next version will combine those sessions to create a single session as per your suggestion. What’s unique in Athletica here is the AI logic that’s working hard to optimize your daily training load in spite of your time constraints, and this is why you’ll note a large time lag after implementing your time constraints before you actually get something acceptable.

  2. A version of this is on our Dev list however I appreciate the Join example for modelling.

Heavy lift ongoing switching from FTP to Critical Power model. Affects system on multiple levels including training load calculations, training zones, adaptation detection, AI coach summary analysis, Workout Reserve, athlete phenotyping, etc

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Here’s some more feedback: The automated feedback should incorporate compliance of time in zone to the workout.

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Latest releases:

  • Launched rowing plan support for Beta users.
  • Profile charts now display applicable sessions and can be interacted with directly from the UI.
  • Implemented a tiered pricing model for coaches to provide more flexible and equitable payment options.
  • Introduced Swimming Pace Profile charts to enhance data visualization for swimming activities.
  • Limiting Maximal Mean Power (MMP) Insight to session chart analysis, highlighting its relationship to Workout Reserve (WR).
  • Ability to add any number of ‘A’ priority races during the year.
  • Power and pace profile charts upgraded to version 5. Includes analyses of strengths and work-ons below your cycling power and running pace profiles (example below).

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