AI FTP Dropped Me About 3%

Thing is, it surprised me. I was progressing up in difficulty, never failed a workout. Quite the opposite, they were starting to feel a little easier than they should and I was expecting it to go up a bit.

like most recently, did the Garraun VO2Max workout, 6 intervals 2-2.5m. Did this one on the trainer. I basically read a book the whole time….which I normally can’t do, say, right after my FTP is adjusted up.

I suspect it’s because I’ve been doing more workouts outside where it’s naturally a bit more variable. Maybe threw the AI off?

Anyway, I rejected the adjustment. Right thing to do? Yay or nay?

How do workouts at ftp feel like?

Lost faith in it, dropped me 25 on 2 occasions when rejoining (when I know its gone up). Pretty frustrating when the reason for rejoining was the ai ftp. . Maybe get them to look at it ?

I would think if you rated the workout as easy or moderate (if you could spare your attention for reading a book, that seems about right), then you’d at least see your progression level jump up and you’d get a tougher vo2 workout next time.

I got a ftp bump up early in the season, then a decrease most recently (for good reasons). Still, my last anaerobic workout was spot on for “very hard”.

OP, Can you post your calendar? It would help give you the best answer to your FTP conundrum.

It’s dropped me 10 watts in 28 days :laughing:

Which is fine, if my FTP is falling down to the level it was when I wasn’t doing structure training and trying to fit efforts in around life etc, then I don’t need the plan and can just ride for fun and chuck in some sprints and VO2 when I am feeling like it. I’m not arguing the system is wrong, if thats what it says has happened I have no reason to disbelieve it, but it’s come at a good time for me.

Life is changing dramatically, getting shorter by the minute, and it’s made me realise that fitting in training right now, and, more importantly recovery, is no longer a priority. I think, if I had maintained where I was at, I would have probably kept TR ticking over but there is no point if I’m loosing fitness that quickly.

Apart from dropping me after a period of illness and not-so structured work, AI FTP only ever gave me increases. Recently put me back at the level I was before illness. So for me it seems to be pretty spot on.

I think the feedback surveys and how you answer them + what block you are in matters a lot. F.e. after a specialisation block your FTP usually won’t increase in my experience

Yesterday it tried to drop my FTP by 25 watts (8.5%) after 3 weeks of no structured training. I have been riding outdoors at least 4 times a week since taking a break from structured training. I found that quite weird but just refused it.

EDIT: I emailed TR support and they confirmed that it is/was a bug and to stick with the previous FTP.

That doesn’t fill me with confidence for my 30 day AI ftp detection due tonight. :rofl:

All I know is they have been looking into it for about 9 days. Sounds like a few also having issues.

That’s crazy! :astonished_face:

@eddie Could you please have a Look at my Profile. AI FTP.6.6% drop. I Had a 28watts random Drop the 24th of August.

Theo Cloete

You should be good to go tonight!

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Very disappointed…. Was really hoping we got to roast someone’s training. :wink:

Hi @eddie - I also had a 5% drop on the 24th which I ignored (manually corrected) as I was able to do all Workouts TrainNow suggested / it still felt right. Could you have a look if that was also do the bug? Thanks in advance :victory_hand:

Same happened to me after clicking ‘train now’ it tried to drop me by 10 watts or so after only having an update 1 week ago that was within 1 watt.

Admittedly I haven’t been doing any structure after completing a 12 week plan but my power numbers are up across the board so I just ignored it.

@jave00 @danielrcross @LiamC93, that bug found you all, but I’ve fixed everything on the backend.

Thanks for hanging in there! :handshake:

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I got the popup on the 24th which might have actually been right. But surprised to see it just pop up and suggest. Normally have to go into settings to trigger it.

I am now preparing for tomorrow’s AI FTP calculation so say “sorry about the error! Your FTP did not drop by 3%. Your new FTP is -10%. Carry on.” :cry:

You’ll get an accurate detection. Let me know how it goes! :clap:

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