This is a call for everyone who has created a workout using Workout Creator (this is NOT for outside workouts) that has mis-scored progression levels to post the workout here, and why you think this is mis-scored.
Hypothesis (@IvyAudrain jump in if I’m off base): TR is using ML to score custom / Workout Creator workouts. So if these are mis-scored, then correctly scoring outside workouts won’t happen. So if we can give TR a sufficiently large pool of mis-scored workout creator workouts, hopefully this pool can be used to better train the AT scoring model, and help get us more quickly to having correctly scored outside / free ride workouts.
Examples of a mis-scored workout:
Clarence King -2 WU+CD this is rated as VO2 Max 8.0, but I built this from Clarence King -2 which is rated as Threshold 5.3. I just added my standard warm-up and cool down
Cartwright + WU & CD this is rated as Threshold 4.6, but I built this from Cartwright which is rated as Threshold 4.7. The only change I made was to add my standard warm-up and cool down
I submitted the above two to TR support, and the response I got back was:
The reason for the discrepancy is that workouts that are built by TrainerRoad don’t have the warm-up or cooldowns included when determining the levels. This means that we are only using the main working part when we calculate the level. However, these points are set manually so it’s not something that we’re also able to do for custom workouts. I’m not exactly sure if the entirety of a custom workout is included for calculation, but I can check on this and get back to you.
Since the warm-up that you add to your workout has a fair amount of length and gets up to 110% FTP, this can cause the levels to increase a fair amount from the TR version as there is now effectively an entirely new “extra” set of work in the beginning.