It seemed like that to me too but it appears that PL’s degrade if you are doing unstructured rides instead of workouts and then an item such as a new block triggers AT to look at those degrade PLs and recalculate.
Yup! Did a 30 mile ride today with minimal elevation today and marked it as ‘Moderate’. Got adaptations to up my threshold workouts and to downgrade my VO2 max workouts. My outdoor ride didn’t have a power meter so I have some questions. Will probably reach out to support tomorrow to see what they say and I should accept.
@HLaB That lines up pretty well with my current plan. Not so much the unstructured outdoor rides, but easy recovery week rides indoors of late.
Thanks for the heads up.
@patricksudol Thanks also. Let us know what support have to say. It’d be pretty good if this was the case.
The downgrades in VO2 max does make sense because I haven’t done any VO2 max workouts yet and it’s currently at a 1.1. So I feel like the adaptations make sense but it was just odd it came after an outdoor ride without a power meter right as I am about to start a new plan tomorrow (ramp test is scheduled).
I did a little digging and luckily found a screenshot of my PL’s from Thursday. In my case they line up perfectly with the adaptations suggested after Saturday’s unstructured outdoor ride.
It lines up with what @HLaB suggested above.
What is PL?
The iphone app should prompt you to do the survey “post ride survey you missed” type message should pop up. it does in the browser for me the next day when i thought i hit the survey the evening before. I think your biggest issue with using the old TR desktop application is that it won’t have the same library of workouts. so recommended workout “xyz” won’t be available and you’ll have to find an alternative?
Unstructured Outside rides associated with race activities on your calendar? No, those are not accounted for in Adaptive Training yet.
Thanks for confirming that 
I’ll maybe have to start associating my TTs with some sort of work out until they are recognised by AT; a flat out hour effort must be doing me something 
Did a ramptest today. I heard Pls get reseted After the test (i increased a little bit), but they only decrease a little bit.
Yip, if you change your FTP at all adjust them 
I associated my TT last weekend Pioneer + 1 which had a similar IF/TSS and profile and it boosted up my SS PL and future WO up a bit. I’ll hold off doing it for my whole season just now though, I don’t think my legs/lungs could cope
Yup, same thing happened when I did my Ramp Test and got a 30 watt increased. All my PL reverted back to 1.0. Reached out to support via chat and they said the following:
Hi there !
This is a common point of confusion and something that we hope to improve communication around in the future.
The important thing to remember is that your Progression Levels are designed to indicate your relative capabilities within each training zone at a specific FTP. As your FTP increases, these Progression Levels need to adjust to keep the workout progression smooth and constant.
Essentially, there are two factors that affect the difficulty of a workout: your FTP and the Workout Level. If either of these factors increase, the scheduled workout gets harder and vice versa. A Level 4 Threshold workout will be harder to complete with your FTP set to 250 watts compared to 225 watts, for example. Immediately following a Ramp Test where your FTP increases (making the upcoming workouts harder), the Progression Levels must decrease to maintain the same effective difficulty.
We want your workouts to get harder gradually, which is why it is crucial that your Progression Levels fall following an increase in FTP.
FWIW TR support is awesome and so responsive. They are probably one of the biggest assets to the TR experience. So helpful, informative, and kind!
I was just about to respond to your other post with a similar query. Seems a bit risky to set your PL’s with race efforts 
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Not sure races would/should be associated with a workout or anything, they have their own designation on the calendar.
I do absolutely see the desire to get credit for your efforts. I’m just not sure it’s the best plan for most as I’m currently battling with a PL that’s possibly a smidge too high and it is making things difficult to say the least.
9 steps above your previous FTP is A LOT of improvement, no wonder PLs completely reset.
I had an amusing adaptation suggested to me today.
That is a single adaptation, by just .2 points, a month from today!
I wonder if it makes sense to put a low pass filter of sorts on the suggested adaptations. There’s very little chance this adaptation won’t get changed again during this month.
I agree, never heard TR talk about this; but it does appear that big FTP increases do knock back the PL’s a long way. I had a small FTP increase and only had a small reduction in some PLs. I hope to have a big increase and also see the corresponding reduction in PL 
I would think a time horizon filter would be better. That is: only workouts within the next 7 days are adapted.
Having a time horizon filter like this would reduce the number of phantom adaptions. That is: adaptions that get adapted multiple times before the workout is actually executed