2nd attempt it worked!
Not sure if this is intended behavior of AT, but I took a ramp test and it gave me all new adaptations for every workout in my Build phase, presumably because of the resets of the Progression levels. I declined them.
Then a few hours later, I went to click on the “Build” button to look a the week by week just because I like poking around.
With out changing anything, I clicked update and it changed my plan to restart the build phase tomorrow with a ramp test. I deleted the ramp test and I went though this cycle again of “click Build, click Update” and it reoffered me all of the adaptations I had declined earlier this morning.
Am I messing with it too much unintentionally or is something weird going on?
It seems like intended behaviour. It would be useful if you wanted to be reoffered adaptations you denied.
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Yes. Using “Update” effectively resets the plan. I can’t understand why you would try to do that at the beginning of the plan?
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You are effectively hitting the “start over” option and it is triggering the follow up steps. Stop doing that and you will get a normal experience.
Got it. I really just thought it was more of an “OK” button , and since I made no changes it was the same as just hitting the X button to get out of the screen.
Definitely not the case. Use the actual “X” button at the top right to exit without making any changes.
The developers are aware of these issues and have an open bug report to resolve them as soon as they can. Sorry for the trouble!
We’re currently working on a larger, more comprehensive resource and educational document for athletes entering Adaptive Training, as sifting through forum threads (or for new AT athletes to even find the appropriate forum post or Known Issues page that might house their question) isn’t a sustainable, long-term solution. Thanks for your patience while we build it! But in the meantime, you should for sure reach out to support@trainerroad.com if you think you’re experiencing a bug. Even if its ‘known’, as an athlete in a closed beta group, it helps us to document these occurrences, so we can directly follow up with fixes or updates once they’re released. Thanks in advance!
Thanks Ivy. Appreciate the communication. Thanks to you and all the team for the work on improving the product.
UPDATE: The fix for this has been released!
After updating, if you’re still experiencing inaccuracies in the display of your Progression Levels between Career Page and calendar, workouts, etc, please reach out to the team at support@trainerroad.com.
Could the description of “Occasionally outside workout outcomes don’t get correctly classified” in the Known Issues page be made a little more descriptive? For example, does this mean that we sometimes get the “Struggled survey” when we shouldn’t? Are there cases happening where the “Struggled survey” should appear but doesn’t?
Anyone else having issues with AT workouts not syncing to strava? Seems like my past few workouts have not been able to sync to Strava
Just got back from vacation and started using AT this week. I get that you have to use plan builder but I sure wish I could use it with something like Traditional Base plans. I really enjoy those but I guess I will just do a low volume sweet spot and then sub that plan in as well to get extra base and ride them outside.
is this the best solution?
Meh, I just started a new training plan (SSB LV) with AT this week and today I was offered 8 adaptations in the Android app which I were excited for. The first one recommended replacing my workout tomorrow with a ramp test, probably since I replaced the ramp test yesterday with a long Z2 ride, because I am happy with where my FTP is set right now. Thus I hit the “Don’t adapt” button in the bottom left corner, which frustratingly caused all 8 adaptions to be discarded with seemingly no way to bring them back. So one misclick because of a misleadingly labled button and 7 adaptations I would have loved to test out are down the drain?
- I would suggest changing the button on the app to something like “Discard all” or similar.
- Is it possible at all to only accept certain adaptations or do you have to accept/decline all?
- Also, will AT now recommend a ramp test for my next workout for the rest of my training plan until I do one? That would be annoying too.
It’s all or nothing currently re accepting adaptations.
If the ramp test that you didn’t do is still on your calendar, then delete it and that should trigger adaptations again
Wow, thanks! That worked and didn’t even recommend another ramp test, now.
Wonder what’s the logic behind that.
Just Adapted workouts not syncing? Reach out to support@trainerroad.com so they can take a look. Sorry for the trouble.
I don’t know the logic, but I expect that it is looking for a ramp test result before adapting as long as the Ramp Test remains on the calendar.
I’ve been on AT for a month or so now.
For this week it served me up
Mon Mon Williamson +4 Not Recommended • Anaerobic 6.8
Tues Matthes +4 Not Recommended • VO2 Max 6.9
Wed Lion Rock -1 Achievable • Threshold 1.6
Thur Juneau -1 Stretch • Sweet Spot 6.9
Fri Aniakchak Not Recommended • Sweet Spot 9.9
My PL’s were
Endurance 3.6
Tempo 3.1
Sweet Spot 4.5
Threshold 2.4
VO2 Max 1.9
Anaerobic 2.1
Sprint 1.0
I spoke to support who amended the week’s sessions, but left in Williamson +4 Not Recommended • Anaerobic 6.8, which I did yesterday. This was brutal, I had to go lie-down in a dark room for about 4 hours after!
My anaerobic PL is now 6.8 and AT has me doing Cirque anaerobic 6.8 tomorrow.
It’s a physical impossibility that I can do another anaerobic 6.8 two days after the last. I only just manged Lion Rock -1 today, which was marked as achievable and should have been relatively easy.
I’ve pinged support an email and understand I can use alternatives, but am surprised to have had a 4.7 point jump in my anaerobic PL, based on one stupidly hard ride that I really shouldn’t have been served up in the first place.
I’m enjoying using AT and think I am learning a lot about my capabilities, much more so that just following the set plans, but I’m a little less sure that AT has correctly estimated my PL’s or is serving me up the best training plan.
I’m hoping it will improve with more data, but it has been a bit hit and miss so far.
Just signed up for the AT beta! Very excited to give it a try.
Did you put “all out” in the survey?