Adaptive Training Closed Beta Update

Quick process question…I got my nod to AT last week, but I am only 5 weeks out from my A event (The Rift in Iceland), so I am not interested in upsetting the Apple cart at this time…and I am doing many of my rides outside now as well. (Which I believe are still unsupported in AT? Correct me if I am wrong)

So does my invite remain open until I decide to go to AT, or is it only good for a certain period of time and then it is rescinded? Any idea @IvyAudrain ?

Why not just sign up and then continue to do what you were doing? Then, after your event, start a new plan, do the Ramp test, and follow the AT recommendations.

Fair point…I am mostly planning on riding outside, and with less structure, the rest of the summer as I don’t have any targeted events. Just looking to enjoy being back to riding with others as much as possible.

Manual toggle your ftp. Should do the trick

Outdoor workouts are processed by AT.

4099 people on AT and still not me!! anyone else left checking Spam, Inbox daily for Trainerroad emails !!

With two caveats: only structured rides are processed, and of those which are processed the results are not yet consistent (both personal experience and still on TR’s outstanding issues list.

The analysis appears to be fairly rigid with many of my rides coming back as struggles despite not being so. Still not ready for primetime, IMHO. Hence still be a closed beta.

Same here. Still waiting.

Just to clarify…I am not necessarily doing outdoor workouts, but mostly high intensity group rides when outside.

Turn it on and see if progression levels update. Believe you have a Wahoo, correct? Not sure if outside on Wahoo (upload via Strava) is working yet. On Garmin you must use TR outside workout. Custom workouts do not have outside variants, so those are not compatible yet. Outside structured workouts that TR sees as a struggle will not update progression levels. I did a short 1-hour tempo (Echo -3) and that was seen as a struggle and all my progression levels are still 1.0.

TR appears to be actively developing features on outside. Turn it on and feed them some data, even if it is all unstructured on Wahoo.

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I got quite excited a few days back when I finally got “the” mail from TrainerRoad… Only to find out it read " Your subscription is renewing soon" :man_facepalming:

Yep, same here. Not quite the romantic TR anniversary I was hoping for.

This worked by the way - the AI is letting me train in peace now :+1:

I’m on the wait list as well for the Beta but it’s no big deal to me if it takes awhile. I take it as a positive sign in that they must be drawing from a big (like vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big) user base who all want in.

It is, TR-unstructured-on-Garmin is not yet live but a high priority.

Interestingly I did an unstructured ride mostly in endurance zone yesterday (Garmin 830) and even though I’m not in the beta I can tell something did change under the hood, b/c Train Now all of a sudden switched from recomending endurance, as always, to sustained power wich I haven’t done enough of for a while.

Yooooooo please keep in mind our Community Guideline of ‘keep it tidy’. Posting that you’re not yet in AT (in the AT Closed Beta Thread) is creating clutter and inhibiting athletes from finding the input they’re looking for, finding other’s experiences, and ultimately not helping others get faster.

To keep expediting the development process of AT, we will keep adding athletes based on an evolving set of criteria that help us address specific aspects of the product that we are working on at that moment.
That criteria is ever evolving and changing as we continually make progress with Adaptive Training, and it has allowed us to actually accelerate the rate of newly added athletes to the closed beta.
Thanks for your patience and for keeping this thread tidy!

Fair to assume TR-UNstructured-on-Garmin includes:

  • unstructured workouts
  • structured workouts not created by TrainerRoad (TR custom, Garmin Mobile workouts, TrainingPeaks workouts, etc)

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I’m looking at the TR .FIT file sent to Garmin and it is essentially the same as the .FIT file coming from TP. Perhaps on the TR side, TR has metadata to support post-ride analysis of TR structured workouts. And if it isn’t curated by TR then its considered unstructured :man_shrugging:

I’m using a Stages Dash headunit, so to do a TR workout outside I have to create the workout file myself. It is for certain a structured workout that is essentially the same as TR version (same holds true for all the examples you highlighted I guess). I hope that having intervals/laps in the resulting recorded .FIT file enables TR to properly classify the workout, in a way that is more accurate than an unstructured workout. But we’ll see, I’m looking forward to it!

Same here, looking forward to PL (/AT) support for non-TR structured and unstructured.