(“Custom plan” in this context means a Plan Builder plan, which customizes a long-term plan for you built from the standard plans and training blocks. If you want AT to make changes, you have to use Plan Builder.)
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Now we’re talking about an acceleration! The TR crew is dancing on the pedals and dropping the field
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I’m still waiting 
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No FAQ but there needs to be.
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Was just going to ask the same thing…
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Not really a primer, but learned guidelines / things to be aware of:
- Only TR rides are “scored” for Progression Levels
- TR rides == indoor trainer rides done in the TR app or TR rides done outside ONLY using Garmin. There is a known bug with doing TR workouts outside on a Wahoo
- AT only adapt plans built using Plan Builder
- From other people’s comments, it looks like “super pass” (doing a workout substantially above the planned workout) is having teething problems. So if you are feeling good at before starting a workout, it appears to be better to pick a harder workout, then exceed the power levels for your scheduled workout
- If at the end of ride, you get the unsuccessful survey for a workout you think you completed successfully, reach out to TR support
- If you see something “weird” / unexpected, email TR support
- There is a “bug” / timing issue that can keep survey responses from successfully saving survey response if you close the TR app shortly (< 3 - 5 minutes in my testing, but can be longer) after completing a workout, so double check each ride to make sure that your survey response is saved
- For rating how easy / hard a workout is: there is no “absolute” rating scale. Just be internally consistent
Hope this helps
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Hey all–I couldn’t find the answer to my question but it might have been asked already, so if you can point me in the right direction, please do!
I do the low volume plan because I ride mtbs and do skills trainings and outdoor rides on three other days, so I essentially ride 6 days a week. I often end up switching my ride days due to scheduling things that come up.
- Should I keep to the low volume?
- When I need to move days around, should I do that or let adaptive training make other recommendations?
Any other thoughts on how this all should go?
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Easy question: How did you find out that you were admitted? Is it an email, or in app? Should we all add a specific email to our approved list?
received an email
there is sorta of an image it above of the email - without the golden ticket background - but that would be awesome if they did it that way instead
it takes you to a page that says “activate adaptive training” and then walks you through the first bits - took 5 min
To play devil’s-advocate… whenever this goes live a whole lot of people are going to get thrown at the new functionality. Part of a beta test can be seeing how accessible and discoverable the new features are. Troubles the beta testers make can lead to workflow improvements for the ultimate release. If you need an FAQ just to get started, that might more effort than the average live-user is willing to apply and causing them to think AT is a flop or too hard to use.
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I don’t remember - but I’ve been in the AT beta since the beginning
I hit the activate adaptive training but was not walked through the first bits!
From my view the issue at the start is I want AT to work and adapt what I do. But it wont work under certain scenarios. I am one that would adjust my workouts to a more appropriate level. If I look ahead a week my next threshold workout is 2 PL higher then my current level and higher then any threshold workout over the next 4 weeks. The issue for me is I would normally adjust my workouts for an upcoming week based on my schedule. If I mess around now AT may not work. So if I just sub to another workout my PL may adapt but I wont get adjustments to adjust future workouts until I do another workout in the program. If I wait until the day and pick an alternative workout then that should work. My issue I really prefer to know ahead of time. This really is a beta issue in my view.
I’m unsure how an FAQ will help with that. You want AT to intelligently ramp your workout progression, but you also want to micro-manage it weeks out? Maybe I don’t get it, but my take is the whole point here is to just let AT fiddle with your workout lineup so you don’t have to. Almost by definition it’s not worth looking at the schedule a few weeks out because who knows if you’ll get bumped up or down a PL by then.
I would suggest you just do what you’re gonna do (I’m assuming you’re in the AT beta, anyway). If TR staff see a bunch of people constantly overriding the AT workouts they might dig in to see if there is some general a weakness with how workouts are being assigned or forecast. This is the whole point of a beta. If not, well, it’s not a show-stopper for the rest of us so no reason to hold things up. There are plenty of features a lot of people are clamoring on (outdoor rides/workouts, polarized AT plan).
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It’s a beta issue, but it’s also a plan builder issue. And the problem is plan builder has been out for a while now and you still can’t drag a workout to a different day without breaking the connection to a plan builder plan. In my mind this is a basic feature that should work. When it doesn’t it causes a lot of confusion and not everyone will go to the forums to find answers.
I am not sure why this is not a high priority to fix. Seems like moving dragging workouts to different days is something most people are going to do when work/family/life changes your plans for the day and you need to adjust.
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An FAQ would explain what we can do, if anything to get around the limitations. Its a beta…it helps to know what works and doesnt work. Reading these threads to find out if someone has addressed it isnt very functional. An FAQ is just simple. It can still be in flux as it is a beta but it would stop users from doing things before they realize what they are doing isnt going to work. So my problem workout is one that I would like to adjust. It isnt one that I can do as currently scheduled. Can I have an extra day of rest before it? Can I sub it now or do I have to wait till that day? Is there a proper way to sub a workout. There is but not everyone starting the beta knows what they can and cannot do without reading a lot of material.
I get what your doing but I would prefer more proactivity by TR to help guide us.
Agreed. Being able to move the workout days to different days of the week in the plan Builder/ scheduling phase is a pretty key part. Hopefully it’s high priority.
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Actually, the whole point of the beta is for you to use AT how you want, find things that don’t work / don’t work the way you think it should, report that to TR, so TR can
Iterate / solve for situations it didn’t think through.
The point isn’t to test AT within a proscribed framework. This is what people who are joining the beta now don’t get:: AT needs to be stress tested - both scale and corner cases / scenarios that TR didn’t anticipate/ fully account for. This can lead to a less than optimal experience if you aren’t expecting a rough, unfinished product.
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I do disagree. Yes it needs to be tested but moving workouts as an example doesn’t test it as it is broken. I want to use it so it works. It’s the reason we should know what doesn’t work or what the work around is. If I use it and something doesn’t work that’s fine. It’s fine to find what’s broken but if it is already known repeating that failure for me is pointless
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The way most developers address this issue during pre-release testing is to publish a list of known limitations and bugs. It’s the opposite of a how-to guide: it doesn’t tell you how to use the app, it tells you how not to use it for now.
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