Just been accepted on to the beta, so excited to get started, doing a ramp test later today. My question though is this. I train on a road bike and a TT bike. I’ve never tested my FTP on the TT bike but it’s around 20 watts lower than road bike. This makes using AT effectively a bit of a challenge as my progression levels will be different depending which bike I’m using. Eg an easy (ish) Sweetspot workout on the road bike might feel hard in TT position. Any thoughts on how best to handle this? I’m doing a dedicated block on the TT bike atm, so hopefully that 20 watt gap will reduce so it won’t be as much of a problem.
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Thanks, I was able to find it on the desktop version and the survey would pop up but couldn’t actually change it (clicking ‘Save’ did nothing). I was able to change it through the TR App (Android) without problems
Good question: Likewise I am TT and road, with a focus on longer TTs. However, I do not think I have such a large gap between TT and road. I tend to Ramp test on the road bike, but get simiar FTP settings once the season starts on the TT bike from racing 10s and 25s.
I keep reading about TT to Road bike differences, but I wonder if it is related to power levels. ie, nominal up to Z4 threshold, but separating in higher zones Z6 or so, due to TT bike position. IF that reason for the difference is at the higher end of power outputs, (as required by a ramp test) rather than across the board, I wonder would doing a 20min FTP test for comparison be a better benchmark. Just a thought…
Final thought: I have just swapped from Rd bike to TT bike on the turbo. I had a really good TT bike fit late last year and I find that I am now able to spin far better and keep a higher cadence on the TT bike, than on my Road bike (for which I also had a bike fit by the same fitter).
So, could your gap be due to fit?
274 currently in beta as per Nate on 3/25 podcast. Hopefully another 100 today or early next week.
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Thanks for all of your work on the new Adaptive Training. I have been using TR since 2011 and Adaptive Training since 3/9. Loving the new AI element of the training plan. I wasn’t expecting to be so motivated by the gamification of the adaptation. After every workout I now check my seven zones to see how much each has gone up or down–super motivating. I could be missing it, but my only recommendation so far would be to be able to see a line graph of how each changes over time–similar to the personal records page. That way a user could easily see “My VO2Max was at 6.3 at the beginning of March and by mid April it’s at 7.9…” I’m guessing this is something that has already been thought through. Keep up the great work. --Brady
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How would you want to visualize this compared to potential FTP changes? The way I understand the progressions is that if your FTP goes up your progression levels will go down - so a graph would have to account for this as well
@mcneese.chad I feel bad continually bugging you about threads/locking/moderation, but:
Is it possible to create another, third thread (making it the original announcement, + this one, + a third) where the third would stay continually pinned to the top of the forum and would be locked to everybody except Nate and Brad and other verified TR employees? They could use it only to announce actual releases and people being added to the beta.
Otherwise the only way to learn about new users being added is to sift through this thread which has a ton of bug reports and other stuff.
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Hey Trevor,
we are currently working on an AT FAQ and list of current known bugs that will be added to the original post in this thread, and continually updated.
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At this time, I am deferring to TR reps (as seen above) for handling this.
I can help once I/we get direction from them.
That’s a great point. I’m still learning how each of these is connected to current FTP and how they will change with a new FTP number. I will probably have more personal insight after I test again in a week and a half. It would just be nice to see movement over time as I am now taking screen shots after each workout. Maybe I won’t care in a couple of months?
They’re making changes today! I primarily do outside workouts and the survey is now working on outside workouts and my levels has updated since yesterday
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That is great! Thank you! I am just hoping for an easier place to see “real” updates from the team as opposed to chatter. Thanks!
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Could you also add a summary (that is kept current) about what AT features are implemented? Things like when unstructured outside rides are analyzed, how custom workouts are dealt with, how self-made training plans are dealt with, modeled/predicted FTP, etc. I suspect that what AT is a year from now will be more than what it is now, so having a concise summary of what AT does/doesn’t do at a given time would be helpful.
AI/ML could do many amazing things, it would be nice to have clearly communicated what amazing things it is actually doing right now.
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Does anyone know where we are with rolling this out? Over three weeks since the announcement but it looks like only a tiny fraction of people actually have access.
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You can also use the search function in the top right to search specifically for Nate, Brandon or Sean’s usernames. If you click to their profile and then click view activity, you can find their posts that way. You can also search for their names and whatever term you want to associate it with and check the box to only search this thread to find only their responses with the keyword you’re looking for.
As of this morning we were at 274 as @Slowmo mentioned. We added another 100 to that this afternoon.
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And sadly, I wasn’t included in that 100 either.
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Thanks for the update. Good luck trying to keep us happy. I do think its impossible.
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same T_T
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Brandon said many thousands of athletes applied for the beta. If we make a very wild assumption that it’s about 4000, then we have about 2-3% chance of getting in each week whilst they are still picking 100 each time.
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