I stopped paying my subscription for a few weeks as we had some non-training related stuff going on including the potential for finances to change significantly for the worst. I was totally burnt out (through work and life stress NOT training stress/TR) but everything is getting sorted now and I am feeling better so restarted the subscription this morning. It asked me to do a ramp test which was a bit of a shocker as I thought I didnt need those any more and it’s only been a couple of weeks since the last TR workouts. I said no (or a variation of no in more colourful language) mainly because the kickr is buried under stuff and I am much much happier training outside in the rain.
It then pegged my FTP at 137. It was 184 when Eddie checked about 3 weeks ago when there was another bug that knocked it down to 174.
It’s a good job it’s not AiFTP detection that brought me back to TR. I just love the calendar, the simple but effective way it handles strength sessions and the workout library. I am paying my subs for those three things. Its a very expensive, but very useful, calendar.
I’m gonna manually set my FTP at a relatively low level for me (probably about 176) and go from there, I may even do a 20 minute test at some point (legs fried atm from weights)
Honestly, i think it’s important to post this here. We hear so often about people making huge gains starting with TR. Well they will if they are started extremely low.
The advertising is that all your indoor and outdoor rides are taken into account. I haven’t done a ride without power for a very very long time. All the data is there. Power figures, hr, my old TR workouts from 3 weeks ago. Its treating me like a new user, fair enough, but it clearly isn’t taking my ride history into account, because this is the exact same figure I gave me when I first started with TR a few years ago with zero back data (I had deleted both my Garmin and Strava accounts beforehand).
I suspect the issue is because I don’t train indoors atm and haven’t for quite some time. I just don’t have the room for a decent set up with decent cooling, and I hate the environmental impact of sitting on a powered training using powered entertainment with huge powered fans when I could just ride happily outside and be close to nature.
But when I asked it to do an AiFTP detection it then said 135?
Also, why on earth would it give me an onboarding value of 137 again? I’m guessing this is based on just really basic info like I’m female, weigh 55 kg and it’s a bit below average so everyone with those stats gets started on that figure, whatever their ride history? It is EXACTLY the same figure as i got when I first joined TR a few years ago. So TR doesn’t truly assess “all of your training history” at all when you onboard.
Hey @JoPage, thanks so much for flagging this! We dug into your account and here’s what we found: the FTP you saw originally came from our Onboarding flow, not from AI FTP Detection. That Onboarding FTP is only meant as a starting point for brand-new athletes without training history and is based on broad averages, not your actual riding. Since you already had a solid history, you shouldn’t have landed there.
Because that inaccurate value got saved to your profile, it ended up pulling your next AI FTP Detection down too. Basically, bad data in = bad data out. We’ve gone ahead and removed those incorrect FTPs from your history and reset your account so AI FTP Detection can do its job properly. To get your corrected result, just head to your "Account" page and click the "AI FTP Detection" button next to your FTP. That will give you a result that actually reflects your recent training.
We’re also looking into why you ended up in the Onboarding flow in the first place so we can prevent it in the future. Thanks again for raising this, your feedback really helps us keep things running smoothly for everyone.
Great, thanks for the detailed explanation and making the changes required. I’ve run the AiFTP detection again and it’s probably about right now considering where I am with fitness so I’ll run with it from here
Same. I re-subscribed and I was ready to accept some modest drop, but I went from 241, to 213.
After reading this thread, I deleted the onboarding FTP and that dropped me back in at 241, the previous FTP. I haven’t had much trouble at that level so far. In fact, my automated adjustments keep going up. I think it was the right move - - for me.
@yoyodub, we took a look at your account, and this is not the same issue as the OPs. Rather, this is AI FTP Detection doing its thing
The reason your FTP got lowered is because you took significant time off from training. With this new FTP, TR was able to recommend workouts that you were able to complete consistently and ramp back into training. I can also see that the training plan has already adjusted future Workout Levels to meet you at your current fitness.
Looks like you’re due for an AI FTP Detection in 14 days, so I am sure that with the consistent training you’ve been performing, we’ll see an increase.
All that said, you mentioned that the AI FTP Detection was the same as your Onboarding. I don’t see an FTP Onboarding record in your account. Can you let me know which specific FTP you are referring to?
