Zwift failed workouts?

TrainerRoad Software
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Hey everyone, trying the AI assisted workout plans for the first time (long time TR user) in Zwift. 2 papercuts:

I just failed one of my workouts and im not getting an option to mark it as such (I failed the last interval halfway through and just turned off ERG to finish the workout in Z1)

I’ve marked the workout as “Maximum Effort”, but I recall that if I completed this workout in TrainerRoad instead of Zwift it would auto-detect a failure. Should I be marking it a Max Effort? According to this page, Max Effort means I still completed the workout: https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404884465563-Post-Workout-Surveys?_gl=1*9bfypl*_gcl_au*MTg2Mzg5MDM1Ni4xNzY5MDQxMTE0*FPAU*MTg2Mzg5MDM1Ni4xNzY5MDQxMTE0

The other frustration and really just feedback rather than a question - I had a 90 min Threshold workout 3 days ago and during the warmup part (first 3 min) i realized I didn’t turn on my fan - I unclipped, ran the fan, got back on I then proceeded to ace the workout.

Afterwards Trainerroad told me “38 seconds of pauses lowered your score”. What bothers me is how I really bought in to the AI coaching and that I have a really intelligent AI monitoring my progress, and simple edge cases like this snapped me back to reality.

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I think you just select the highest number option if you fail one-that’s what I did anyway.

Pauses, yeah it appears they count but wow what a big change in your FTP! Mind posting your calendar?

Joe

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I’ve had a threshold workout where I had a similar experience, couldn’t keep the pedals turning on the last over so I did a 5-10 second back pedal and got back into it. Thought I’d get the fail and didn’t but put maximum effort.

System lowered my athlete level but didn’t view it as a fail. I think you did the right thing and sometimes those aren’t actually fails, just pushing you all the way to the edge.

The notification on the 38 seconds thing used to not happen but think so many people were complaining of getting a 4.2/4.6 on their athlete levels for things like that. That’s likely why they put it in so the user knows. AI already knew, but users didn’t.

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I recently failed a workout in Zwift, due to illness. What I did differently than you was that I actually just stopped pedaling completely, and then ended my ride when my avatar stopped. I didn’t even get the rating option (presumably because I didn’t get to the end of the workout). And when I opened the TR app later I received the ‘why did you fail?’ survey.

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To me that seems like a flaw. I understand if you were pausing for 30 seconds between intervals but that’s not the case. It’s hard for me to imagine pausing 38 seconds during the warmup has an actual measurable impact on performance.

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