One of the two weighed 583 grams — I can still picture that number clearly.
The other one was somewhere around 595 grams.
I have the same feeling and agree… would be good next month to vote up ‘trail rapid’ so that we can see the details and how it compares to ‘race rapid’.
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Weights for a new Race King 2.2 Protection (586gm), a 2.4 Rapid/Race Dub (656gm), and a 2.4 Grip/Trail Dub (717gm).
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Anyone find Dubs to be bouncy? I’m getting rim strikes yet over rock gardens it feels like my bike is bouncing over them over instead of rolling.
1 month Peyote thoughts:
I have Dual Peyote tires on a 100mm Epic hardtail. Just wanted to say that I did our local enduro race today and got PRs on like 6 segments, up and down. Which has surprised me. I’ve done this race probably 5 or 6 times now, and ridden these trails 20x over the years. And previously I used more trail focused hardtails with a lot more tread. I’ve seen some people talk about how scary the low tread is but I think you’d be very impressed with how much grip they actually have (on dry trails).
I felt so confident today it was weird. 2 of these trails I usually am sort of scared to ride but today I felt great. And these are trails that I think are 1 step above what you would find in a typical xc race anyways. Got a PR on the one and I would consider it to be the hardest local trail. Here it’s a black but in reality it’s like a high Blue. Lot’s of roots and holes.
Not to say I attribute the improvements all to the tires, but they didn’t seem to be much of a hindrance. I felt in control. Yes they lock up and skid faster than trail tires, but it doesn’t really happen that often. Usually I can slow down when I want to.
Usually I set them to 23r 21f at 185lb, seems to be working great. Haven’t tried lower though. The rear measures 2.35 and the front 2.30, on 25mm ID rims. Weight I already posted somewhere.
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bouncy? i’m guessing you’re running the race carcass which being so light is likely to be less damped than the trail or other heavier tyres. its a natural trade-off - lighter is not always better
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I’m running the trail carcass
Continental Trinotal race - rapid 2.4 - 632gr , will mount later this week
huge difference between race rapid vs race grip (724gr)
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Been running Rick/Rick in Speedgrip in Michigan and love the speed over my Rekon Races, but miss the grip up front a little. I think I’m going to run this combo at Leadville, but thinking of grabbing a different front for when I want a bit more traction. I assume Ray is the move?
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Yep I ran Ray F, Burt R, and the back was only squirrelly in a couple of places, but nothing scary. Rick might have behaved, but the course changes enough that who knows. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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I ran a Rick rear with a Ralph up front for more grip. Had previously been on Vittoria Terreno XC front and rear (pretty much slicks) and knew I wanted a little more grip up front to push it in corners but the Ray seemed too knobby coming from a smooth boi (plus the Ralph were supposedly faster). Wasn’t sure how the Ralph would perform as a front but it was amazing–was able to carry speed throughout corners and pedal out vs hitting brakes and re-accelerating. Ralph measured smaller than Rick in same size on same rim and graphics don’t match but very happy with my selection.
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Weird, we had the same thing happen at our house after like three non-technical rides on an Air Trak. It’s now in the trash. Chalked it up to 200lb rider on a lightweight race tire but maybe there was more to it.
Just yesterday tested Ralph front/Rick rear on the Lumberjack 100 course (Big M) and liked it a lot. Ralph is plenty grip and rolls faster.
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Same setup, my 2.35 Ralph measured 2.27 and my 2.4 Rick measured 2.29 at 17/18 psi.
I’m out of town for LJ, but was going to ride a couple laps next week on the Rick/Rick actually, but only because I don’t currently have a Ray, and don’t want to put the Rekon Race back on.
I’ve gotten a few rides in with Rick/Rick 2.4s, Addix Speed, on a set of M5 Pros. One of the rides was in wet conditions with a lot of roots and rocks. I was shocked how well they gripped. I saw a lot of other riders having issues and sliding on the roots, but the Rick’s held firm. I wouldn’t hesitate to bring them out again on a wet day.
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Are those 7s supposed to be 2s? If they are 7s, tell me where to get them
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Sorry, you are correct. Yes, 2.27. Fixed.
I concur… last weekend I had a 2hr XC race on a very hilly Georgia red clay/rocks course in the pouring rain. Didn’t get the result I wanted but the handling was always predictable.
My setup is a Ray front and Rick Rear.
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