Why Your Workouts Feel Too Hard (Not What You Think...) | Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast 563

This is a good question and highlights one of the ways all of us hyper-detailed athletes overthink things from time to time, hehe.

We phrase the question “How did this effort feel?” intentionally. If the other sources of discomfort make the effort feel harder than it should, then that makes the effort feel harder. Simply answer how it felt and you’ll be good to go! :slight_smile:

This is something we’d like to improve as well.

In terms of your race in July, it’s always taking into account all the training you are doing, so the direct answer is yes. It will probably want to run you through a bit of base, or maybe just go back into build for a bit before the specialty phase. Hard to say as it’s unique for each athlete, but you can rest assured that it will prioritize peaking at the right time for July.

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I hear you on the thumbnail and titles. I try to draw a line at avoiding sensationalism and certainly at inaccuracy. Fact is, this podcast is one of our main marketing efforts, and part of marketing is optimization. As some of you have noted, the nature of youtube viewership habits and how it delivers content to viewers has shaped what creators have to do in order to reach their audience, and our thumbnails and titles are shaped by that through a testing and optimization process.

I do try to not put the titles in all caps here as I know some of the forum folks don’t appreciate it.

My main hope is you all find value in the content above all else :slight_smile:

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Hi Jonathan, I’m honestly not clear on your reply. In this specific case, should that effort have been marked easy or moderate?

Thanks for the answer!

Hi Jolyzara, you’re probably right, it could be the regular recovery week. I do not train as hard as you (medium training load only - 4 times a week), so I do not feel like I need a recovery week after a 2 weeks break. But as you say ‘it’s me ‘ :slightly_smiling_face:

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It sounds like they said the discomfort made it feel moderate, so Moderate would be the choice.

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Interesting. Thanks for the reply. I didn’t expect that answer since the “moderate” was due to saddle issues, not the actual work.

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Is there a podcast dropping this morning? Not seen anything on YouTube or my podcast feed and getting worried as want to watch during my z2 workout in an hour!

I believe they go up around 8am local time to trainerroad so gmt-8

Really such an insightful episode for me, thanks Johnathan!

Firstly, I always viewed the check volume option as a reset back to the default volume that was prescribed by TR. I didn’t know that this was dynamic and would change based on the work you had done the last period of training. One bit of feedback that I would give is maybe it would be better placed somewhere else close to the automatic FTP detection for example, as this is also something that you should/could check regularly to see if it’s still accurate. With it being in the setup screen of the plan I didn’t really consider it something I should check back on as a training plan is created for a long term and with it changing workouts automatically there is was no need to go back to the plan so I wouldn’t have thought to recalculate that. My idea was that it was more set and forget and your weekly max hours you could handle wouldn’t change.

Secondly regarding the responses to workouts, I was really overthinking it by the sounds of it. To me a threshold workout is obviously going to be hard so my baseline for judging it was my view on how hard it should be, if that makes sense? So for example if a threshold or VO2Max had me up again the ropes I would consider this normal and most likely rate it normal rather than very hard. My view of how hard it was had a bias based on the workout type, classic overthinking I suppose.

Thanks for the clarification on both points and all the work you and the team put into the product! Keep up the good work :raising_hands:

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