This is surprising (or not really)
Hint, everyone has an opinion, and nobody is 100% right.
But also, everyone is resorting to clickbait nowadays in the click economy.
Have you listened to Quinn Simons on Evoq.Bike?
I won’t even open such AI slop. I am graduated physical therapist and I know few things about strength training and injury prevention.
Ignoring the clickbait what takeaways did you find interesting/new from this?
Next click bait title should be “why runners should not run-just visualise it The power of mind” author ran his first marathon only by visualising how he runs it, every day before sleep.
I would 100% click on that to be fair
I ran 17 mental marathons last week so I’m using this week as recovery - gonna run 18 of them next week. Seem to be putting on a bit of weight despite all the mental mileage but I’m definitely avoiding any stress fractures (I hope).
Didn’t read the AI and last time I ran seriously was 1995 or so but I can attest that leg work, in particular one-legged leg press and smith machine pistol squats, helped my running considerably (until plantar fasciitis shredded my foot but that was my fault).
Yikes. That’s a hot take! ![]()
Just recovering this post of a few days ago now that Jonathan Lee confessed that he stopped doing strength….so why most cyclists leave weights aside as they become stronger? If that’s what their body asks them to do there must be a reason.
Yes, weights are beneficial for beginners and intermediate riders with less than 10h per week, but are they really good for advanced cyclists with a high cycling volume? Or maybe is that the case that the additional load hampers recovery so skipping it allows for a higher cycling volume?
Do they? Most strong cyclists I know/ride/race with are in the gym to some extent year round.
Just because one guy stopped weight training hardly means that most leave weights aside.
Ask in the professional peloton how many days per week they do heavy lifting (supposedly the most beneficial type of lifting for endurance athletes according to “science”). Not talking about mobility, core, elastic bands and similar rehab/prehab exercises
There’s likely a lot of things pros do that the mere mortals should not being trying to imitate
You mentioned gym, not exclusively heavy lifting..
In season is different than off season or base and should be periodized appropriately.
Only doing heavy lifting year round is very different than doing it when appropriate and then moving to maintenance when racing and on the bike intensity goes up.
I don’t follow world tour racers as closely, but many lifetime Grand Prix athletes are regularly showing clips of them doing deadlift and other heavy weights.
What do people consider a strength maintenance routine? Maybe it’s different for all. For me, this is another confusing part about including strength in cycling training.
We hear things like add it on your hard days but put it 6+ hours after your cycling workout.
And is maintenance one day a week for 30 minutes? Or an hour? Or is it 2 days a week but less intense workouts?
It’s probably a lot of “it depends”
It depends ![]()
But for me as I move into season I go from 2-3 strength sessions/week down to 1-2 and reduce the weight a bit.
I keep the overall structure the same but since I am lifting a bit lighter and not increasing the weight or number of reps it becomes a session that is pretty easy to recover from or do before/after hard bike days as long as I maintain consistency.
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Just like people shouldn’t copy other people’s cycling.
What’s your weakness, what’s your training load, what’s your free time, and so on.
Agree. Definitely something I’ve learned the longer I’ve trained. It’s good to see how others approach things but have/am learning to take a step back and really think about how it will or won’t work for me.
It would be also necessary to define what’s cycling training. If you’re following to the T a TR plan (which I sincerely believe Jonathan Lee and other TR elite cyclist guests don’t do) the highest volume I found was to train for a Gran Fondo which is 7.5 Hours/Wk. Then yes, you can add a strength session weekly to your schedule. But who’s doing 7.5 hours weekly to really be competitive in a Gran Fondo? Not to say a stage race….is that cycling training?
Now, do at least 15 hours weekly and add to your calendar a strength session. It’s in fact TR that will tell you not to do it by painting your calendar in red….