As there is quite a lot of questions on the matter but no real math, I thought it would be good idea to throw in a simple statistic into the mix to give people a rough estimate. Hopefully most of you have already gone through all 3 phases so there should be some clear cut info on the matter …

Let’s hope TR reveals this data someday

Coach Chad has already mentioned it somewhere in this now-behemoth forum. But I forget his answer. May the search function be your friend.

I wonder if there might be a bias towards Base for all the people new to structured training. Following the patern of big gains at first then dropping off. This is probebly different for those having been through a few years worth of structured training.

and even if you’ve been doing it a while I would think that base phase would see the most gains because you’re largely reestablishing physiological adaptations that have fallen off rather than forcing new ones.

I guess also one thing to keep in mind is, that basephase is longer than the other phases

[image] Captain_Doughnutman: Coach Chad has already mentioned it somewhere in this now-behemoth forum. [image] When do you usually see the most FTP gain? Training @dbf , I used to see the biggest gains in FTP with riders doing more traditional base plans. But with th…

Can we get this data in minutes per watt gained in FTP / IF or something? :slight_smile:

Where’s the “Other” option – i.e., working with a coach and not using a canned plan?

I’m the wrong person to ask for that info.

@hollandgdavid I would think so as well, but then again in most threads I see there is the always repeated mantra that it is in fact the Build Phase that gives best results. Not sure whether it is just something people keep on repeating without actually checking the data, or whether in fact there is…

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