Iāve worked graveyard consistently for 18 months. I got called to active duty, and was on days for 3 months. Iām now back to nights, and my sleep pattern is all goofed off. Iāll get 3 hours here and there. My training went to crap for my first week back, along with nutrition. I went from 182 to 189. As of now, Iām not getting much sleep. My training is back on track, and my lack of sleep hasnāt hit meā¦yet
Not enough 
5mo old twins going thru some type of sleep regression for the last 3wks. That said, weāve been lucky cause at 2mo they started sleeping thru the night.
I feel better already having said the above. #virtualsupportgroup 
Twins, that sounds rough. My cousin has twins, and her and her husbands goals for the first few weeks were: survive. I wouldnāt worry about training too much.
Very interesting and a lot of it, when you think about it, makes sense.
Thanks for posting the link.
Iāve found that refueling with carb & protein after heavy efforts means much better sleep.
Yes, you need more to sleep.
My sleep is now full with a dream. I talk to at the time of sleeping. Have any reason behind of this?
My sleep is awful currently.
One 6 year old who wakes with the sun (about 4am where I am) and an 8 month old who is also an early riser.
The worst part is wanting to relax in the (child free) evenings and staying up later as a result.
Our 14yo cat may not survive the summer.
Nice to hear a different viewpoint. I think itās the stress in the rest of my life, both training and ālifeā, which make me a bad sleeper. Maybe i need a sleep training plan - Iām kinda serious.
Thanks 
. Lots of useful points and concepts here in a general discussion on sleep for (lots of humour plus Professor of Circadian Neuroscience at Oxford and Prof Psychology at Hertfordshire)
And segmented sleep contesting the myth of the 8 hour sleep:
āFor most of evolution we slept a certain way,ā says sleep psychologist Gregg Jacobs. āWaking up during the night is part of normal human physiology.ā
And more:
Oh what a difference a few months makes. Nov 18ā with a 5-1/2 month old & sleep was less than 5 hours a night.
Now at 13 months old, sleeps through almost every night and for at least 8 hours. Sanity has returned
My point - for those first time parents, it does get better!
I am somewhere around high 8ās almost every night. This is time in bed. I donāt track actual time asleep. But also push close to 9-10 hours on weekends after big rides.
I think it will be better to sleep at least 8-9 hours a day. If we are not getting enough sleep, our body will get weak. Not just that, thereās a lot of things that may happen to you like getting sick.
same here! Had to travel from CA to NJ/CT this week and got 4 hours Tue, 6 hours Wed, and 4 hours Thur (last night) due to weather delays. Iām sooooo tired right now 
If I donāt sleep at night at least 7-8 hours, it seems to is wrong with me. For my pressure of works at night, I go to sleep too late at night for a few months. Some times I work whole night and going to sleep the next morning and sleep 1-2 pm of the day. Is this harmful to me?
This season in my brain Iāve basically started 100% conflating āsleepā with ārecoveryā and itās been a game-changer, hitting all time numbers for me with less volume. The recent TR podcast on the topic was a huge vote of confidence for this approach. In my brain Iām basically like massage, good meals, putting feet up, relaxing, all nice! But SLEEP = RECOVERY. That thinking has led me to try and track hours slept, and try and find correlations to training and performance (something Iāve never done).
In past seasons during periods of high volume Iād thought Iād hit a āphysiological ceilingā turns out I was probably just too tired week in, week out. I used to think missing #'s in a workout was a fairly regular thing but this season Iām hitting the numbers and progressing. Iāve had to change my work schedule to get the sleep in but itās been worth it.
I get between 7 and 8 hours of sleep, but I am using Touchpoints to improve the quality of my sleep and I feel great in the morning. Before that I used to get to sleep very late and wake up tired.
IMHO, if you wake up with alarm, you donāt get enough sleep.
This for me also. If this is helpful the book āWhy We Sleepā by Matthew Walker is incredible - once you read and realise the affects of less than adequate sleep that you wonāt want to get less that 8hrs ever again. Its really helped me ensure I get lots of sleep before events and actually now its a daily habit.