That’s not how less risk/probability works. Less does not = 0. Let’s say it reduces your chance of hospitalisation from (I’m making these numbers up) 3% to 1%. Some unlucky people will still end up in hospital.
By the same token, some very obese, chain-smoking individuals will make a full recovery in a week.
In better, more off topic news, Real Ale is 99p a pint in ‘Spoons right now 
So maybe leave the VO2 intervals until Friday, eh?
TR competition for who can drink the most before the pubs close? 
TR Pre-Lockdown Ale Consumption Leaderboard (UK Division, Day #1)
How does it feel? It feels like KoM, my friends, KoM. 
(Apologies @martinheadon its been a helluva week)
I enjoyed unstructured rides from early Spring until now as I simply wanted to ride for enjoyment.
This weekend I restarted a 28 week plan with TrinerRoad so I was mentally prepared for 6 months of indoor training. I’m still training for my key event 9th May next year which to be frank I doubt will go ahead as i cannot see how a spotive can be run when you have mass starts and finish’s, feed stations and people ,travelling from all over to ride.
As a back up I am setting myself some personal goals, a coast to coast ride in a day is one. A full day around the forest of Bowland which should be good for 130 miles out and return.
I will also keep TrainerRoad going as I have lost mental resilience on the bike which I’ll get back but I’m annoyed I’ve diminished my ability to suffer so I guess whilst writing this I’ve discovered another goal.
I would argue anything you need to do which doesn’t cause detriment or breaks government guidelines you do to get through the Winter.
It’s only 8 ish weeks to the shortest day here in the UK😉
Germany is on lockdown for the entire November also. I will ride mostly indoors, but not because of lockdown, but because of awful November weather and the sun setting at 4:50pm.
I don‘t see how riding outdoors is particularly risky. Unless there are bans on riding outdoors (like in France and Spain), I would just carry on …
Same boat here (and same conclusion).
I am hoping some time trials run next year; if they do, I’ll shift my focus there. I’ve always wanted a pointy helmet 
That’s a good idea.
I’m also considering trying to ride from where I live (rural Herts) to my parents (North Staffs); c.130 miles too, funnily enough
You said there is no evidence that being leaner and fitter puts you at less risk. I linked numerous articles, some from academic journals, pointing about clear links between excessive BMI (leaner) and worse outcomes. Various other articles I posted described the positive effects of regular cardio (fitter) in the context of covid.
Redefining risk (i.e. classic post hoc) doesn’t change anything.
But if you don’t count those as evidence, little will convince you.
During the first lockdown I did lots of short rides to keep my fitness up and mental levels up too. It was better/ lighter weather and I’ve lost my mojo since chemo last year and the post nerve damage for too many rides when it’s not optimal. I’ll probably end up with more TR or RGT virtual rides 
I live in Scotland and my area has been threatened by the new Tier 4. Given England will now move to a full lockdown I fully expect Scotland will follow suit this week 
I do all my Trainerroad workouts in the gym. So this looks like I won’t be able to continue for a while. So may need to get the running shoes back on for the foreseeable.
I’ve been looking at turbos but not sure I’ve got the space for one.
I’ve not got room for much either. The bike sits 99% on the Elite Suito turbo. If I am not using it for a bit I fold one leg down and it’s more compact than the bike leaned up against the wall. I’ve never done it but it folds to 2-3 books wide and can be stashed behind a sofa or under a bed. Good luck 
I’d also say you need to check if you have space for a turbo and a decent powered fan to use with it. Not sure how productive turbo is without one tbh.
If you aren’t planning on competing in any races soon I’d be inclined to get running. Give the bone density a boost and more time efficient in bad weather.
Im glad you agree with us on that.
I think you mean less chance of getting infected?
And agreed, anyone can pick up the virus, but getting infected and experiencing the disease is dependant on many factors - health and fitness included.
Worth noting that the scientists suspect there’s a significant genetic factor in play (ACE receptor variation), which may go some way to explaining why a very small number of young, fit individuals do badly with Covid.
Edit: Hou, Y., Zhao, J., Martin, W. et al. New insights into genetic susceptibility of COVID-19: an ACE2 and TMPRSS2 polymorphism analysis. BMC Med 18, 216 (2020); " We found unique genetic susceptibility across different populations in ACE2 and TMPRSS2."
That notwithstanding, as a general rule, if you are younger, fitter, and a healthy weight, your statistical outcomes are better with pretty much any disease, and CV19 is no exception.
Long and/or hard training actually suppresses the immune system though. So if the goal was to be as healthy and resilient as possible, then I’d argue the best approach would be a moderate volume training plan like the Maintenance plans, rather than doing a progressive overload approach like the Base/Build/Specialty plans where you increase the load each week and amass quite a bit of fatigue before hitting a recovery week. If you’re following a TR plan then the last few week before you hit a recovery week you’re likely to be quite a bit more susceptible to picking up or being hit hard by an illness than somebody who is exercising more moderately for general health and not pushing the performance envelope.
Somebody out there doing 10+ hours/week of cycling is still going to be healthier and more resilient than a couch potato. But there is a tendency as cyclists to lose sight of what “normal” is - NHS recommends 150 minutes of exercise per week to stay healthy, on the TR forum and Strava most people would say that barely qualifies as a long ride!
No, I dont believe so. I was updated on the science earlier this year in this thread:
Thanks, hadn’t read that one. Seems the really epic days are still considered maybe a bad idea in terms of immunity though?
Have to say the “debunking” science definitely doesn’t align with my anecdotal experience and observation! Always seems that when I or others are pushing the performance envelope that there’s a greater susceptibility to getting sick. Though the idea that often athletes aren’t actually sick when they think they are is also interesting. Guess that maybe over reaching in your training can trigger similar symptoms to an illness, just without any underlying infection.
Just ride your bike as far and for as long as you want. Dont worry what other people think.
Just don’t wear your club jersey in case you end up 200km away! 
Surprising just how far you can ride even within a relatively short distance from home. Try this site: https://www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php
Interesting times and interesting thread. The way things are heading, I’m even beginning to question if there will be a race season in the UK next year!
Can I ask a dumb question though - what is everyone training for? Is it for an event, general fitness, personal gain? It’s a question I asked myself at the beginning of all of this and as I was training for racing, I stopped “training”. The biggest gain I got was that I fell back in love with the joy of just riding a bike. No goals, no agenda, no structure. If I felt like a longer ride, within the guidelines, I had a longer ride. If I fancied some VO2 max intervals, I did them. I raced on Zwift. A lot!!
I would suggest, do what is going to give you the most pleasure 
