I like the yellow/green in some color combos. I actually don’t like it in the red XXX that I am getting, but the deal I got was worth the minor dislike.
They have more subtle colors and better combos in the Blaze & Specter in particular. I have often disliked the color combos of many Bontrager helmets in the past, but most of these new ones are actually to my liking.
What I don’t yet understand is, if wavecel is safer than mips, why does the ballista mips appear to test better than wavecel xxx in the Virginia tech tests?
It looks like the Specter is going to be the helmet for the Trek Factory Racing Team (cross-country mtb). Trek Race Shop …seems versatile to me.
I have a first generation Smith with Kyroyd for mtb and it is incredibly hot. I was considering the Specter and it looks like it could serve double duty as a road and xc-mountain option.
Glasses: There is no real way I see to hold glasses on the helmet. There is minimal gap between the foam shell and the WaveCel. One spot near the back of the middle slots can fit the start of my ear stems, but the frames float and I would not trust them to remain in any riding situation.
Fit: I am a Medium in most helmet brands. Discussion from some who got theirs before me said the fit is a bit tighter than similar Bontrager helmets.
This is not an issue for me. My hair is longer than normal right now, and I am using about 10 clicks on the BOA dial (from full open) to get a snug fit. I usually have very short hair and a skull cap, and I think that will fit fine for me.
The fit & comfort is quite possibly the best of any helmet I have ever owned or tried on. It has this “cradle effect” that just seems to apply even and soft support around the head that is super comfortable.
Still, it is probably a good idea to test fit if you have ever been on the bubble between sizes, to make sure you are set with the normal, or need to size up.
Airflow: I will have to get a ride outside (maybe in a week or two) to see how this goes. I can see some of the ducting that seems intended to draw air up from and across the WaveCel openings. It will be interesting to see how it feels in comparison to a more “open” design.
I may try a simple test with my fans at home, inside to see if I can feel any difference with my Propero II and Evade helmets.
Other:
It includes an alternate pad system. These are taller supports with less overall foam support straps, and it also has a silicone-type sweat guard. It seems intended to lift the helmet a bit more and create a taller gap between the head and WaveCel.
It includes stickers with the full Trek-Segafredo Team. Not sure I will use them, but it’s a nice option. I am considering adding some pinstripe for a bit of color and style.
Trek’s announcement is actually way more exciting than most people here realize. I’m doing research on structures like these (periodic media for waves and so-called metamaterials), and this is indeed cutting edge as far as I can tell. I’m a physicist, not an MD, so I can’t make any educated assessment as to the medical efficacy (I’d urge caution).
But in terms of effort and complexity, this is in a whole different league than the MIPS or MIPS-like systems other helmet manufacturers have on the market (including straight-forward honeycomb structures). The big deal here is that due to the periodic structure of the material, you can engineer this medium to have properties that are vastly different from the material they are made. What is more, they can be directional and depend on the frequency of the incoming wave. Simply put, you can make the material softer in one direction and harder in another; and the degree of stiffness can change according to the impact speed. Sounds simple. However, precisely engineering these properties into the material takes expertise, not to speak of manufacturing.
I was looking at the simple scores in the VT info, and thinking about your question. The only thing I can think of is that the particular test that Trek is using to set it’s big concussion reduction may not impact the scoring as much.
I say that without any real knowledge of the scoring specifics and need to read into how and why they score as they do. But I could see some ranking or composite values having the overall not impact as much, despite the info from Trek.
@Kuttermax " With Trek having an exclusive deal for WaveCel for cycling helmets for a number of years, it will be interesting to see how the competition counters. Do they attempt to discredit the effectiveness of WaveCel, or try and launch something to compete without violating patents."
Chad - could you tell me your head circ. meas. to fit a Med? Interested in the Specter have 56cm head and usually wear a MD in most brands. Bontrager size chart looks like I could be right on edge of Sm/Md. Not wanting to look like “The Great Gazoo” Thx
One of my good riding buddies is a Trek fanboy. Heck, he may even be reading this. When they made their announcement I texted him " all that hype for a helmet liner?!?!" He even thought it was ridiculous!
Advancement in helmet tech is truly a good thing, but as others have said, this seems to be an iteration rather than an advancement.
I have to disagree here. The difference between the two is that “nanomaterials” is vague, there are a whole lot of things where the moniker “nano” has been tacked on. In contrast, metamaterials have a clear definition, they are periodic media for waves, so this new helmet liner clearly qualifies.
There is a lot of research going into this, and the biggest obstacle is fabrication and taking other constraints into account. For example, you can do the same for electromagnetic waves, and the idea is to have optical chip-to-chip communications. The constraint here is that manufacturers would like to continue using silicon-based devices because they have literally spent tens and tens of billions in R&D to learn how to fabricate transistors at ever smaller sizes. And the reason why this is becoming a thing now is that new manufacturing methods allow us to produce these materials at scale and at reasonable cost. As all new technologies, they will filter down from high-end, high-margin, low-volume products — such as a $300 helmet. Just to give you an idea: in the experimental physics community, one experiment with mechanical metamaterials costs between $30k and $100k. (The costs would likely be higher in the industry, though, because many universities have their own shops where researchers essentially only have to pay for material.) I don’t know whether this applies to Trek, but what Trek has done has cost Trek a whole lot of money. And it is something, only bigger players can afford.
And I think Trek has a point when it claims it is a breakthrough that only happens once a decade or so: it requires a very different level and type of expertise when it comes to the design and manufacture of these materials. The analogy to carbon fiber is apt: you need to gain expertise in design and manufacturing in order to use it to its full potential.
Of course, none of this means that this particular product is well-designed and does what Trek claims it does. But this is most likely a long-term effort on Trek’s part, IMHO it would be hard to justify this type of investment if all they did with it was make a fancy helmet. The same ideas can be applied to a whole host of other products in the same way that nowadays carbon fiber bikes consist of carbon tubes that are put into lugs. The sole of our shoes is made of carbon fiber. The crank arms are made of carbon fiber. If you are really fancy, maybe even your chain ring or disc rotor is made of carbon fiber.
And even if this whole WaveCel initiative is a bust, metamaterials are indeed one of the biggest changes coming to material science. 3d printing with e. g. titanium enables a huge number of possibilities. Ditto for photonics, there are plenty of very robust proof-of-principle designs that are now waiting on other advances to cross the threshold of commercial viability.