It’s recommending a level 5.3 Threshold for you right now.
Are you using TrainNow on the web or in the app?
1 Like
I’m checking in the app where it keeps a me 1.0 Threshold level workouts
1 Like
Same for me for Sweet Spot. I’m close to 6.0, and keep on getting sub 3.0 recommendation. So I stopped using Train Now, and just pick the workout in the library
1 Like
Same issue using the web. It looks like TN doesn’t recognize my actual levels and recommends workouts as l had just started using TR
Could you send over a screenshot of what you’re being recommended? You can DM it to me if you’d like.
I sent one over which you can see above and it shows TrainNow recommending workouts that respect your Progression Levels… 
1 Like
Thanks for your help. I contacted TR support and their answer as l understand it is that TN reviews my recent training history and if it detects a high load it recommends low levels workouts to prevent excessive long term fatigue. Am l right?
I got the same response from support, but then isn’t what Red/Yellow light suppose to do ?
“Days on your TrainerRoad Calendar will change color in response to accumulated training stress”
So the days I don’t have any red/yellow light, why am I only getting low/ achievable workouts ?
It did not use to work like that before. I think they broke something behind the scene
1 Like
Even without a Red/Yellow day, if you’ve been working hard in the days prior, an achievable endurace ride might be the most appropriate thing to do. I often get this. Then after some easy rides or time off, TrainNow throws in the hard rides again.
1 Like
Do TN do the same after an FTP jump or if you been off the bike sick for two days.
This is what I’m going through now. I didn’t know if TN want to ease me back in or keeping it easy because my build plan begins in two weeks.
Got some updated info for this one (with the recent changes to TN discussed above!):
Recent updates to TN will indeed look at how fresh/recovered you are, which can impact what workouts you’ll see recommended.
It will also look at your FTP changes, so an FTP can change what workouts you might see as well.
TN will not necessarily know if you have been sick or not (a full-on plan applied to your TR Calendar will know that info thanks to Training Adjustments and Notes), but days off from training can also impact what workouts you may see in TN.
TN won’t, however, see that you have a plan coming up in a couple of weeks.
It sounds like you may benefit from having a plan in place rather than just using TN. TN is great for one-off workouts or “filling holes” in an active plan, but if you’re training pretty consistently right now and you’re using Training Adjustments and Notes while also planning for future training, a full-on plan might be a better fit for your needs. 
You can find instructions on getting back into the Plan Builder setup/edit flow here. Your plan’s start date should be the first thing to come up once you’re back there should you wish to make it begin a week earlier than it’s currently set to.
5 Likes
Thanks for the info,
Train now got me by surprise and didn’t know I would like it so much.
I like not knowing what the next day’s workout will be.
I’m new to TrainerRoad and was using it as a fill in before my plan starts, it’s been about a month.
Funny thing is that I kept the days and times as if I were on a training plan.
2 Likes
How it started / how it’s going, 1 month with the new TN.
So how good has TN been at prescribing workouts, given most of my riding was outdoors and unstructured at the start?
Pretty OK but not perfect.
Sweet Spot +3.3 - Pass, Moderate.
Threshold + 3.1 - Fail, Max Effort, completed 3/4 sets and gave up. Had been feeling a little ill.
VO2 Max + 5.1 - Pass - Max Effort. Failing toward the very end.
Anaerobic +6 - Pass - Max Effort.
Apart from the Sweet Spot workout, everything was a stretch but it’s done now, and I can get onto working around those levels in a plan. It’s a good feature now but in the same situation next year, I might take the suggestion and dial it back 1 level. Though I’m sure someone at TR is processing all my ‘Max Effort’ scores and it might be more dialed by then.
As mentioned in the Workout V2 thread, this negates much of the need for outdoor rides to contribute to the PL score but I suspect this is a stepping stone to getting there.
4 Likes
Today I tried TrainingNow, and I got a recommendation of a 9.6 Anaerobic workout. My Anaerobic PL was 1.0 as I had taken a month off and then started a Base block.
Initially I thought it was a bug and there could be no way I could finish it. But after reading about the updated TN function, I decided to give it a try, and I passed the workout and even added 30min Endurance at the end.
It was Hard, but that’s expected for a 9.6 Anaerobic workout.
I guess TN is working, and I’m glad I won’t have to go through multiple easier workouts to finally find my level…
5 Likes
Nice! That’s exactly how we hope TrainNow-recommended workouts will go. I’m glad you had a good experience with that. You’re getting a whole new type of training stimulus by taking on those high-level anaerobic workouts! 
1 Like
Did not work for me today. My current VO2 Max PL is 3.8, and without me noticing, TN recommended a 6.8 workout (Givens -2). Which I subsequently failed - I managed the first set of three intervals but failed on the first interval of the second set 
I skipped the remaining two intervals and finished the workout, which gave me no progression and overall felt like a waste of time which I could use for a more productive workout. In retrospect, while the +3.0 increase has been too much, I probably could cope just fine with something like +1.0.
P.S. This has been the first time I’ve failed a TR workout. But until recently I’ve been following a plan, which never game me breakthrough workouts.
I wonder if TR just deployed an update to adaptive training, that generates training plan adaptations based more on the system used for TrainNow than on Progression Levels?
I just had an adaptation to my training plan’s scheduled workout for tomorrow from a Sweetspot level something-but-I-can’t-remember to a level 7.2, whilst my current progression level is 5.3. I’ve not noticed Adaptive Training prescribe something with such a jump before.
Might not be mad in this case - I’m sure that I can manage markedly more than a 5.3, and maybe that 7.2. But given some of the bonkers suggestions that I’ve had previously from TrainNow, I’ll keep a close eye on suggested adaptations for a while.
Yep! This is intentional behavior. 
We’re continuing to release improvements to the way we recommend workouts, similar to what you may have recently seen in TrainNow. We’re constantly analyzing data and working with new models to find ways to do an even better job of making people faster, and these higher-level workouts are what we currently think are the best options for you.
There will be an announcement on this in the future, but for now, this is just us shipping updates where we feel it can have a positive impact for athletes right now, since we’re confident that you’ll benefit from the changes.
Give those workouts a try and let us know how they go!
9 Likes
Hi Eddie! This new way to recommend workouts is working really well for me. I’ve found those suggestions very accurate, from sweetspot level to vo2max, so I’ll continue to accept them after every adaptation. Great work 
1 Like
I’m seeing something I suspect is unintended behaviour. If not, I really would like to hear the reasoning. I started speciality this week and with that did my first anaerobic workout in a long time. That workout was a breakthrough workout (even though I thought TR was supposed to stop with that type of labelling) increasing my PL from 2.5 to 4.5. I nailed that workout and rated it moderate, but then my next anaerobic workout was first adapted down to a 2.5 PL and later adapted down to a 2.0 PL.
Thanks for the info. I did indeed accept this adaptation with its hefty jump in levels, and did indeed complete the workout just fine.
2 Likes