Yeah I’d be flabbergasted if they didn’t offer you your money back or at least let you have the month free.
TR are a great company 
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How soon is soon? 
I can’t wait!!!
My impression was the 01-Jan date was not some marking push but rather they were really proud and excited by what was coming. Every post by the TR team has shown that and its odd to assume marketing malice to it.
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Oh yeah I’m not saying they should… just that they probably would….
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Is it really asking too much for an official update (good or bad) at this point?
I’m not being critical of the delay - I’m sure TR is working very hard on this, and are more keen than anyone to get it over the line. I am being critical about the sudden blackout on communication.
Anyway, life goes on. The current product still works as well as it did this time last month, and it’s still helping me optomise my cycling. Looking forward to the update, whenever that may be.
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What could they say in an update that would actually make you satisfied? Give you a date that it will be out? It’s clearly uncertain. Last time Nate tried giving a date, it didn’t end up working out and people here are complaining that he did that. So I doubt he wants to do that again. They would obviously release it now if it was ready.
If they’re too open with details and it ends up being wrong, people are mad. If they aren’t detailed enough with updates, people are mad.
So realistically the most honest thing they can say is that they’re working hard on it and it will be out soon. Which is what they’ve said.
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For context, I really don’t care if / when this release comes - I’m just using TR as is
But I did want to say I don’t think anyone forced or expected Nate to give a date? TR launched a big ad campaign and then went totally silent. Anyone who is remotely familiar with Workout Levels V2 (which I’m now assuming is like Doom 4) will indeed wonder if this release is actually coming.
Being in the software industry and on the outside looking in, this looks like one of those “big bang” release approaches - relatively easy to “plan“, often lots of scope creep and painful to actually deliver.
I hope the devs are doing okay - these kind of projects are never fun at the end.
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Ahh. I’ve just had a diagnosis of a herniated disc. Means I’m going to be out of action about 8weeks due to surgery and rehab. I guess and hope there’s a chance it’s ready when I’m able to train again.
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Microdiscectomy?
I had that back in 2023. I’m sure I can dig up my exact timeline if you’re interested. I was definitely lightly spinning on the trainer at roughly 4 weeks (supported upright).
Yes, got 2 weeks to wait until the surgery, he said 6 weeks before proper exercise, so I guess as you say light spin 4-5 weeks might be ok. Also need to have physio as well.
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I also had one of these. I was walking in 2 weeks and with no pain from that was ok to hope on the bile - gentle at first. All the advise I got was to listen to the body and take it easy slowly ramping things up.
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How Soon is Now? - The Smiths 1984
When you say it’s gonna happen now
Well, when exactly do you mean?
See, I’ve already waited too long
And all my hope is gone.
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I’m not in the beta program, so was a bit surprised when I saw this.. The new AI FTP detect drop my ftp by 8% and then turn up the level.. så previous vo2max was level 3.4 which I marked as hard, now with the lower ftp, it is turned up to level 6.. Beside the ftp drop I’m excited to try out the new AI planning
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Yep, same. Looking forward to what comes from these unexpected additions.
I’m having issues with TR after the AI update. This is how my calendar looks like atm. The same is for Career tab. 
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Yes did the same for me, I did a browser fresh on the page and that solved it
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If it is hanging up and a browser reset doesn’t work try changing something, like throw a workout in on the blank day. Seems opposite of what should happen, adding more fixes it, but sometimes it is just hung up and a little change like that might nudge it along. Then just delete it.
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True. Restarting the browser helped. Thank you. Didn’t think it would be that easy to solve 
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Similar experience. -3.6% compared to last weeks AI prediction. And now workout levels way higher.
I’m willing to try, but a 3.6% drop in a week means one of the models was very wrong, and undermines the whole AI FTP for me.
I’ve seen some comes trying to explain, but some clarity for what might cause these sudden dependencies would be nice.
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